HondaSUV Forums - Discussion forum and bulletin board for Honda CR-V, CRV, Element, Pilot, HR-V owners
 

Go Back   HondaSUV Forums - Discussion forum and bulletin board for Honda CR-V, CRV, Element, Pilot, HR-V owners > 1997 to 2006 Honda CR-V > CR-V::Clinical Rounds

CR-V::Clinical Rounds Routine maintenance, problems, solutions and repair

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-08-2010, 04:22 PM
BigIslandV's Avatar
BigIslandV BigIslandV is offline
Senior Member
HondaSUV Mentor
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Pahoa, Hawaii
Posts: 3,635
Honda Post Icon Rodent proof tape from Honda

In the August 2010 Honda Service News...http://techinfo.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/a100800.PDF

Text copied for those on dial-up:

Rodent Deterrent Tape for Wire Harnesses

Got a vehicle with a chewed-up wire harness? It’s probably the work of rodents, and if it is . . . Honda parts stock
has just the thing to deal with it:
Rodent-Deterrent Tape (P/N 4019-2317).
After repairing or replacing the harness, wrap some of that tape around the affected area. It's got capsaicin, the
stuff that puts the fire in a bowl of five-alarm chili. This should keep any critters from causing future problems.
When wrapping the harness, use the method we refer to as half-wrapping. Each time you wrap the tape around the
harness, overlap the layer you just did by half the width of the tape.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-08-2010, 05:18 PM
buckyswider's Avatar
buckyswider buckyswider is offline
Senior Member
HondaSUV Senior
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA, USA
Posts: 154
Default

And don't rub your eyes while installing it!!!! :0
__________________
2000 CR-V EX (automatic), Milano Red, on the road since 01/15/2000. Currently (5/2014) 241K miles. Accessories include roof rack, mud flaps, 3rd party remote starter w/cell phone interface, Jensen video/stereo w/7" pop-up screen and bluetooth.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-08-2010, 06:07 PM
BigIslandV's Avatar
BigIslandV BigIslandV is offline
Senior Member
HondaSUV Mentor
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Pahoa, Hawaii
Posts: 3,635
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by buckyswider View Post
And don't rub your eyes while installing it!!!! :0

I thought about that...
Did you notice the illustration of a rodent every few inches on the tape?
This stuff might become a big seller. I wonder if anyone has generic available?
Rodents are a huge issue in Hawaii.
__________________
99 EX 5sp and 04 EX Auto CR-V's, 06 Ruckus, 89 Jeep Cherokee Beach Finder... Big Island, Hawaii . . . Aloha!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-08-2010, 07:13 PM
sgtsandman's Avatar
sgtsandman sgtsandman is offline
Moderator
HondaSUV Elder
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Posts: 10,476
Default

I wonder how much a roll of that costs. I might be worth installing some as a preventative measure even if you haven't had a rodent problem to date. Gen 3 owners might be very interested since it seems the majority of the posts with this problem come from them...
__________________
Mike: Sgtsandman's 'V
2011 Ford Ranger XLT, 4X4 5 MT


1999 Honda CR-V EX RT4WD 5 MT


Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-08-2010, 09:31 PM
BigIslandV's Avatar
BigIslandV BigIslandV is offline
Senior Member
HondaSUV Mentor
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Pahoa, Hawaii
Posts: 3,635
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtsandman View Post
I wonder how much a roll of that costs. I might be worth installing some as a preventative measure even if you haven't had a rodent problem to date. Gen 3 owners might be very interested since it seems the majority of the posts with this problem come from them...
I have seen dozens of rodent issues at work within the last year. All kinds of vehicles. Rodents don't discriminate. They eat all wiring equally.
__________________
99 EX 5sp and 04 EX Auto CR-V's, 06 Ruckus, 89 Jeep Cherokee Beach Finder... Big Island, Hawaii . . . Aloha!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-09-2010, 01:28 AM
4hondaowner's Avatar
4hondaowner 4hondaowner is offline
Administrator
Site AdminHondaSUV Elder
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Duluth, Georgia
Posts: 13,437
Thumbs up

I'm going to buy a case of it and give it away as gifts at out next meet.

__________________
Kevin
2000 Honda CR-V LX "Touring Edition" (139,000)

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-09-2010, 05:02 AM
Karl Johnson's Avatar
Karl Johnson Karl Johnson is offline
Senior Member
HondaSUV Mentor
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Colorado
Posts: 879
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by buckyswider View Post
And don't rub your eyes while installing it!!!! :0
Or lick your fingers.
__________________
Green Tea '08 EX-L 5-speed Auto | All-weather Mats | Side Moldings | Front Splash Guards
Satin Silver '05 EX | 5-speed Stick | Roof Rack | All-weather Mats | Cargo Cover | Cargo Tray | Front Splash Guards | XM Radio SkyDock™ | Yakima Sparetime | Nekkid™ Tirecover
Sebring Silver '98 EX | 5-speed Stick | Webasto Sunroof | Nekkid™ Tirecover
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-09-2010, 05:42 AM
Karl Johnson's Avatar
Karl Johnson Karl Johnson is offline
Senior Member
HondaSUV Mentor
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Colorado
Posts: 879
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtsandman View Post
I wonder how much a roll of that costs. I might be worth installing some as a preventative measure even if you haven't had a rodent problem to date. Gen 3 owners might be very interested since it seems the majority of the posts with this problem come from them...
The Honda rodent-deterrent tape p/n 4019-2317, is $24 ($32 list) for a 20 meter roll at Bernardi's Honda. I did a search on the part number and got a hit.

While searching around I found the top tasty Honda wire (for mice anyway) is the knock sensor wiring. It seems to be true no matter the model. There are lots of stories of Elements, Pilots, Accords, and Acuras with chewed through knock sensor wiring. I believe that's what's shown in the Service News bulletin.



There's a long, long list of mouse-chewed vehicles on Wombat News: Mice Ate My Car. I thought this one was very interesting...

Quote:
Another Honda Pilot owner here who had rodent’s eat the knock sensor wire. When the lights came on I brought it in because it’s still under warranty. Was very suprised when I got a call that this wasn’t warranty, but instead a rodent had chewed the wires. I actually didn’t believe them, so I told them NOT to repair the wire (Quoted me $300) as I wanted to see this for myself (I used to be a mechanic, so I figured I’d do my own repair if not warranty). When I picked up the car, I went ahead and bought the part ($5.50) so if it WAS the actual problem I wouldn’t have to go back to the Stealership.

Before pulling anything apart I did some research and found this site (among others) that talk about this re-occuring problem. I was now starting to believe that I did have a rodent problem. In addition, the new part came with a gray tape wrapped around the wire which had a VERY interesing picture on it. The tape had a picture of a mouse the an “X” in place of the eyes (i.e. dead). So, even though Honda Customer Service is not admitting to this being a problem, or covering it under warranty, apparently they are aware of it and have tried to prevent future problems with this rodent repellant tape. . .

I then decided to start pulling parts off the engine. Found the wire pretty quick and it was definately chewed. Had to pull the intake off the engine, but luckily the Pilot had low enough miles that everything was in good shape, all the bolts came off easy, and I even managed to re-use the gaskets (good thing because they are about $90 for the set). If you are mechanically inclined, the job is not too complicated and can be completed in a couple hours with some metric sockets and wrenches.

I, too will be contacting Honda and complaining about this issue not being covered, especially since there is now PROOF that they are aware of the problem (the tape on the replacment part). I encourage everyone to do the same. Thanks for all the info on this thread and good luck to others!
Apparently the problem is more prevalent with newer models which have soy-based plastics used for wiring insulation.

The problem with the tape is that the mice/rats don't stop with the knock sensor wiring, or even the wiring harness. They'll eat anything and everything. In fact, it seems like auto manufacturers are going out of their way to make new vehicles down right tasty...

Quote:
BIO-BASED MATERIALS: Automakers have stepped up their efforts to use bio-based materials that reduce petroleum use, life-cycle carbon emissions and vehicle weight.

Toyota has lead this movement by pioneering the development of an "Eco Plastic" made from sugar cane or corn, and building a pilot plant to produce it.

DaimlerChrysler increased the use of renewable materials in some vehicles by up to 98% over previous models by using natural materials such as flax and abaca fibers.

Ford has developed a soy-based foam, and will soon begin using a bio-fabric for seating.
When checking the oil and topping off the windshield washer jug, you might look carefully to see if you can detect any subtle signs of rodent habitation...






.
__________________
Green Tea '08 EX-L 5-speed Auto | All-weather Mats | Side Moldings | Front Splash Guards
Satin Silver '05 EX | 5-speed Stick | Roof Rack | All-weather Mats | Cargo Cover | Cargo Tray | Front Splash Guards | XM Radio SkyDock™ | Yakima Sparetime | Nekkid™ Tirecover
Sebring Silver '98 EX | 5-speed Stick | Webasto Sunroof | Nekkid™ Tirecover

Last edited by Karl Johnson; 09-09-2010 at 07:03 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-09-2010, 08:35 AM
texgal's Avatar
texgal texgal is offline
Senior Member
HondaSUV Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Somewhere near Austin, TX
Posts: 2,907
Default

I have a built in rodent deterrent...lol. Yep, all 20 lbs of him.

__________________
2007 Whistler Silver EX
OEM Front Mud Guards, OEM All Weather Mats, Cargo Tray, Tinted Windows, 3M Paint Protection Film
2009 Little Silver
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-09-2010, 08:46 AM
texgal's Avatar
texgal texgal is offline
Senior Member
HondaSUV Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Somewhere near Austin, TX
Posts: 2,907
Default

Let's not forget his backup!

__________________
2007 Whistler Silver EX
OEM Front Mud Guards, OEM All Weather Mats, Cargo Tray, Tinted Windows, 3M Paint Protection Film
2009 Little Silver
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Non-tape deck Honda radio Tasty The Wired CR-V 5 05-08-2009 06:46 PM
Rodent Prone..... liam51 CR-V::Clinical Rounds 25 11-23-2005 02:04 PM
Rust proof? ndroo Singapore Member club talk 11 10-30-2005 10:47 PM
CRV - Rust proof ndroo CR-V::General Opinions, Commentaries and Observations 2 10-26-2005 10:51 PM
Rodent problems - any solutions? pmar CR-V::Clinical Rounds 10 09-27-2005 12:36 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We are not affliated with Honda Motor Corp. The Honda name and logo are registered trademarks of American Honda Corporation in the United States and/or other countries. All rights reserved world-wide. Copyright 2006.