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Old 06-23-2004, 09:18 PM
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Default Oil change: 3000, 5000, or 10,000? (confused)

I read the manual and it says to change oil every 5,000 or or every 10,000 miles depending on the driving condition. But, after my first oil change today (@ Honda service), they put a sticker that says another change due in either 3 months or 3,000 miles (whichever comes first). So, what is the actual thing? :
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Old 06-23-2004, 10:10 PM
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We discussed this very topic at length in aircraft mechanic's school. Since then, I always change oil and filter at 3 mo. / 3,000 miles. Our Honda Civic went 250,000 miles, our Legacy went 240,000 and still gets 30 mpg.
I have never had any internal engine problems in 35 years. Oil here in the west is 69 cents a quart on sale...I do my own changes...you can pay now or pay later....
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Old 06-24-2004, 12:50 AM
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1st you never mentioned what year your vehicle is????
second you never mentioned what type of driver you are????
why ??? we. will just conclude that you own a 2nd gen. the manual sayz, every 10k or @ xx amount of months. why??? if you do not drive much or drive too often you change sooner so 5k is the recomended all time round.... if you are a person who puts community milage 20 miles round trip, and some milage over the weekend then go 10k... it is all up to you, to be confussed... its normal ha ha ha
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Old 06-24-2004, 07:19 AM
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The Honda Owners Manual recommends oil change intervals of 5,000 miles for "severe" driving conditions, and 10,000 miles for "normal" conditions. Your Owners Manual also defines what Honda means by "normal" and "severe." Only you can decide which category your driving fits in.

Your dealer makes more money from you if you change the oil every 3,000 miles. I argued several times with the place I first used (that kept telling me every 3,000 miles) even though for a 1st Gen the "severe" interval is 3,750 miles. The Honda dealer I use now puts 3,750 miles on the little sticker, even though I haven't said anything to them.

The cost isn't significantly higher over the life of the vehicle. If you change the oil every 3,000 miles and the oil change costs $25 you'll spend $833 in the first 100,000 miles. If you change the oil every 5,000 miles it'll cost you $500. If you drive 12,000 miles/year (the US average) it'll cost you about $40 more per year to change the oil every 3,000 miles.

You won't hurt your CR-V by changing the oil more frequently.

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Old 06-24-2004, 08:31 AM
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We discussed this very topic at length in aircraft mechanic's school. Since then, I always change oil and filter at 3 mo. / 3,000 miles. Our Honda Civic went 250,000 miles, our Legacy went 240,000 and still gets 30 mpg.
I have never had any internal engine problems in 35 years. Oil here in the west is 69 cents a quart on sale...I do my own changes...you can pay now or pay later....
I've only had to rebuild one engine in any car I've ever owned...my '85 RX-7 and that was due to a faulty radiator that caused the engine to over heat. Once you over heat a rotary engine you have to replace the rotor chamber seals. The only way to do this is to open up the engine.

In any case, I was religous about changing the oil every 3,000 miles. When performance shop that did the rebuild on my RX-7 (with 120,000 miles on it) opened up the engine they were shocked at the pristine condition of the internals; nothing needed replacing (although I did have the apex seals at the rotor tips replaced with higher performance tips).

Lesson learned or rather reinforced; proper maintanence including frequent oil changes will do wonders for your engine.

Additionally, an old friend of mine is a mechanical engineer. When possed with a similar question he recounts a story of his days at the Univ. Of Michigan. One of his many projects included a microscopic analysis of metal to metal wear and the effects of oil (clean oil, dirty oil, etc). The difference can be remarkable even over the short term.

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Old 06-24-2004, 09:06 AM
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my honda dealer tells me to change every 5k miles just like the manual.

i'm just going to make sure i use synthetic oil.
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Old 06-24-2004, 05:29 PM
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my dealer told me 7500 when i bought my 2nd gen. All my friends say he doesnt know what he is talking about and always change it at 3k. I've been doing every 5k and I bet my V will still last longer than my friends who are religious about oil changes. Why? because none of them own hondas.
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Old 06-24-2004, 08:29 PM
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The U of M study is valid, but only one of many. Learn to change the oil yourself with 69 cent chevron or other brand name oil, change it every
3000, if you plan on keeping the car. If you do it yourself, you will know
it is done right. Quick lube places make pleanty of very expensive mistakes....5,000 mile to 10,000 mile changes are nothing but pure marketing bravo sierra.
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Old 06-24-2004, 09:03 PM
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I change mine at 3 - 4k miles. Better be safe than sorry (although I don't think 5k will hurt anything). I had the same thinking as Racoon. The extra cost isn't really that much. The extra $40 - $60 extra a year is well worth my peace of mind.
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Old 06-24-2004, 09:38 PM
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Canadian manual for the 04 V says every 8,000 km or 5,000 miles. That's what I will stick to.

My last Honda, an 86 Prelude had 330,000 km on it when it was stolen. I used to do oil changes infrequently, often going 10,000km, 15,000km or occasionally longer between changes.

At least twice, it almost ran completely dry, when I was forced to pull over after the red warning light came on...and add oil. And, yet....330,000 km and still going strong.

My 2000 Cherokee was changed religiously every 5,000 km ( 3,000 ) miles and at 120,000 km the engine had lost almost all of it's oil pressure at warm idle.

So...I think, the build of the engine is the biggest factor. I'm sure if I stick to the Honda spec I will be more then fine.
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