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ryss003
09-30-2004, 02:55 PM
hi guys.. has anyone had installed an aftermarket exhaust on their pilot?? is it possible to put the muffler right after the resonator then just weld a tailpipe exiting the rear?? has anyone done this?? i saw this aero-turbine website and its claiming to add a few extra horses and torque.. check out the website.. im kinda interested on changing the oem resonator to the aero resonators then put an aero muffler right next to it.. will it fit though?? can someone please message me back about this? thanks!!
N_Jay
09-30-2004, 03:26 PM
These little tricks don't give you any more power.
At best the give you a little more noise which fools you into thinking there is more power.
At worst thay cause less power at various places on teh power curve (maybe making it feel like more power when you get out of these flat spots).
APEX CRX
11-18-2004, 09:39 AM
Argeed, adding a muffler probably might give you 1-2 HP but lose it somewhere else in the pwerband
PatrickC1026
11-22-2004, 05:59 PM
I also agree. Unless you spend some thousands of $$$$ and upgrade your intake, header and exhaust, it's not worth the trouble.
redn22
11-23-2004, 01:04 AM
don't give yourself the headaches... It's not worth it because yes, it's true... You may gain more torque at the lower RPM's, but you will lose it somewhere in the upper power band... It's a fact of physics.... (I read it somewhere, but I can't remember where)...
Besides, do you want even worse gas milage than what the Pilot offers????
redn22
11-23-2004, 01:11 AM
Oh, by the way... No matter how much you spend on an exhaust system, you will only see a very small increase in horsepower.... In most cases you will only see 5% horsepower increase... Not worth it...
Like what Patrick said, to get the real power from your 3.5L V6, you'll have to do some big modifications.... Such as the ones Patrick mentioned....
Want to know the best bang for your buck to get more power out of an engine? Take your engine in to get some head work and bore out your bottom end...
People spends thousands of dollars on the bolt on stuff... But the secret lies in getting engine work done first... And most times it is much cheaper than purchasing all of em bolt ons....
JM2C
MikeN
11-23-2004, 06:12 PM
People spends thousands of dollars on the bolt on stuff... But the secret lies in getting engine work done first... And most times it is much cheaper than purchasing all of em bolt ons....
Hi dude.
Don't sell the bolt-on route short. From little increments come big gains....once enough of the little increments add up that is. :D
The vehicle I had before my Honda was a Chev half ton 4x4 with TBI 350. Factory stock it could manage a modest high 17 second quarter mile. As the years passed I added many bolt ons....much of whom were free or virtually free. For example, an increase in base timing provided a tenth second improvement for every degree the timing was advanced. No cost there. Add another $7 for a 160 degree thermostat and it lets you dial up 6 degrees of base timing and gives a little benefit on its own by transferring less heat to the intake air-fuel charge.
A tenth improvement may not seem like much, but it equates to a car length in the quarter mile. The trick is to quantify and test each of the mods as you add them, to be sure they are actually benefitting. I acknowledge a Honda four is different than an old small block Chev, but hey, they are all just air pumps right? :D
After a few years I had the thing doing 15s in the quarter mile and the long block was still factory stock. Stock cam, heads, even exhaust manifolds (no headers). I had spent nowhere near $1000 and at the dragstrip it was just a touch behind 5.0 Mustangs. :D
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