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racuda
02-01-2011, 07:22 AM
On the top of the rubber seal on my 1997 CRV's transmission dipstick it says "HONDA ATF DEXTRON". I know you're supposed to use only Honda ATF-Z1, so why does the dipstick say Dextron? :confused:

Racoon
02-01-2011, 08:36 AM
Really? How odd.
Can you post a picture of the whole dipstick, and where it says that?
And maybe measure the length of the dipstick?

:?

roadster
02-01-2011, 09:15 AM
Dextron is a substitue for emergencies and one is supposed to replace as soon as they are at teh repairshop. other do not know that and they just Add in any fluids.

you can place any liquid as a emergency.........

racuda
02-01-2011, 09:29 AM
Really? How odd.
Can you post a picture of the whole dipstick, and where it says that?
And maybe measure the length of the dipstick?

:?

Sorry for the poor quality cell phone pics.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k304/racuda00/0201111117.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k304/racuda00/0201111125.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k304/racuda00/0201111116.jpg

From the top of the yellow handle to the bottom end it measures 10 1/2 inches.

I knew that Dextron could be used in an emergency, but it seems strange that it is molded into the rubber seal of the dipstick. That makes it look like Dextron is called for.

4hondaowner
02-01-2011, 09:49 AM
Interesting concept.

About a year ago I replaced my ATF dipstick with a new one that I bought at the dealership. After a few years the rubber seal gets hard and ATF comes out the top of the hole. Not with a new dipstick!

Wife has CR-V right now, will look at mine in a couple of hours.

:shock:

racuda
02-01-2011, 10:04 AM
I replaced mine too. The one shown is the original. I don't know if the new one says Dextron since its in the shop (thats another story).

The reason I replaced it is because I put it in crooked and it got between some gears and almost ground it in two. In the pic the bad place is under my fingers.

sgtsandman
02-01-2011, 11:02 AM
I'm with Roadster, Dextron is the emergency fluid.

N_Jay
02-01-2011, 11:13 AM
On the top of the rubber seal on my 1997 CRV's transmission dipstick it says "HONDA ATF DEXTRON". I know you're supposed to use only Honda ATF-Z1, so why does the dipstick say Dextron? :confused:

Where are you?
What market was the car sold in?
Could the dipstick be a replacement?

racuda
02-01-2011, 11:18 AM
I'm with Roadster, Dextron is the emergency fluid.

I'm told that that's what it says in the manual (I don't have one), but my question is why is it on the dipstick? If is only recommended for emergencies why put "Dextron" on the dipstick? Being imprinted makes it look like the recommended fluid IS Dextron!

racuda
02-01-2011, 11:21 AM
Where are you?
What market was the car sold in?
Could the dipstick be a replacement?

I'm in NC. My wife bought the car in 2000 used, so I have no idea where it originally came from or if the dipstick is original. When I get the car back I'll look to see if the new replacement I bought at Honda also refers to Dextron.

4hondaowner
02-01-2011, 11:24 AM
From the Service Information Summary back page of my 2000 manual:

Honda Premium Formula Automatic Transmission Fluid preferred, or a DEXRON III ATF as a temporary replacement (see page 207)

It says on page 207 that continued use of the DEXRON can affect shift quality. Have the transmission drained and refilled with Honda ATF as soon as it is convenient.

It should be noted by this poster that we are dealing with DEXRON and not DEXTRON as some have written.

:-P

racuda
02-01-2011, 11:35 AM
From the Service Information Summary back page of my 2000 manual:

Honda Premium Formula Automatic Transmission Fluid preferred, or a DEXRON III ATF as a temporary replacement (see page 207)

It says on page 207 that continued use of the DEXRON can affect shift quality. Have the transmission drained and refilled with Honda ATF as soon as it is convenient.

It should be noted by this poster that we are dealing with DEXRON and not DEXTRON as some have written.

:-P

I think I've added that "T" in there all my life! Thanks for the correction.

This business about DEXRON on the dipstick is merely a curiosity. I just noticed because I've been changing the fluid a lot lately because of a bigger issue. I'll start a new thread to address that.

4hondaowner
02-01-2011, 11:38 AM
I just noticed because I've been changing the fluid a lot lately because of a bigger issue. I'll start a new thread to address that.

This is not good...

:x

roadster
02-01-2011, 12:01 PM
gonna mke me go out and snap a vid are ya. I remember a topic about what was just said dip in gear LMAO!. so I shall snap a shot of hte GenII nah, its on the dip, and in the books.

2002 says ATF that is all.

4hondaowner
02-01-2011, 12:20 PM
The top of my dipstick just has ATF on it.

:shock:

'Curly Q Links'
02-01-2011, 03:42 PM
Since DeXron can be used, and is universally available, they put DeXron on the dipstick stick (for the sake of those who don't have the Owner's Manual along).

No, DeXron doesn't work perfectly, but it's better than other things your body shop or Monkey Lube might try putting in there. ie: Brake fluid, gear oil, Amsoil....

If I found mine was not touching the dipstick, and I was in Nowhere, Alberta, I'd probably add some DeXron to get me home.

BTW, there's no 'T' in DeXron.

Look at that... I should have read page 2 of the thread

:idea:

sgtsandman
02-01-2011, 05:30 PM
4hondaowner and Curly :-P

berniedd
02-23-2011, 10:00 AM
I'm with racuda on this one. On my 1st Gen Honda's original ATF dipstick rubber, I read "Honda ATF Dexron" too. And in page 117 of my owner's manual (printed September 1997), it says:

"If the level is below the lower mark, add fluid into the tube to bring it to the upper mark. Use Genuine Honda ATF PREMIUM (Automatic Transmission Fluid - PREMIUM) or an equivalent DEXRON II or III ATF ONLY."

Nowhere does it mention that Dexron ATF should be used only in an emergency nor that it should be replaced as quickly as possible with Honda ATF. This strongly implies that Dexron ATF can be used interchangeably with Honda ATF, and not just in an emergency. In fact, I've had Dexron III in that transmission for the last four years, and haven't had any tranny problems whatsoever. In a few more months, I'm due for another ATF drain and refill. Definitely I'm going to use Dextron III again.

4hondaowner
02-23-2011, 10:09 AM
In a few more months, I'm due for another ATF drain and refill. Definitely I'm going to use Dextron III again.

Your thought concept makes no sense to me unless you had absolutely no way to buy Honda ATF-Z1 fluid.

'Curly Q Links'
02-23-2011, 10:54 AM
Maybe Dexron III has some of the additives that were missing in good old Dexron II ? Members who used dexron II often complained about the thranny shifting like a 'slamming door'.

I wouldn't switch to Dexron even if it was 1/4 the price.

:idea: