da1776
07-07-2004, 09:42 AM
I need help.
Pilot history: I have a Sandstone EX with currently 115,000 highway miles. I purchased the Pilot new around August of 2002. I change oil every 3000 miles, transmission every 25,000 miles and rear end every 20,000 miles. Once started, the Pilot runs continuous at around 60 to 70 MPH for at least 2 to 3 hours on the average. I replaced my timing belt, water pump, gaskets, coolant at 90,000 miles. I replaced my front brake rotors at 60K miles. I am still using the original pads. I have not done the Trans. recall yet. I carry approximately 600 lbs. of luggage, lit. and people. This includes my weight. I have never towed or pulled anything and I have never been "OFF-ROADING". All work is done by Honda Dealers. (Except a few oil changes)
The problem: I finally replaced my original Goodyear tires at 105,000 miles with the same size Michelins Cross Terrains. (I do not recommend these tires. My gas mileage went down 2 MPG on the highway). I took my Pilot to have a "4 wheel" alignment. After the alignment, the Pilot started to pull to the left. The dealer set it to "spec" but said the Pilot has been adjusted to the max. Still slightly pulling and thinking this dealers alignment machine could be out of spec, I took it to another dealer where he said the rear springs are sagging.
I called the 800 Honda service line and they basically told me that since the Pilot had over a 100K on it, tough luck. My argument didn't pan out. (I told them that there was nothing in the owners manual that said "When changing your timing belt, RE-SPRING you Pilot. )
I have a 97 Ford Expedition with over a 150K miles and I have never replaced springs on it. (and I tow a boat with it). My pathfinder had 250,000 miles and I never put springs on it. In fact, I have never bought springs for any of my cars.
Has anyone else had any problems with rear spring fatigue on their 2 year old Pilots. Honda wants about $250.00 to replace them. I feel it is an inherent design flaw and could cause me to loose control under certain conditions. In addition, I am causing uneven tire wear on my new tires.
Aside from this issue, the Pilot is great. Sorry to be sooo wordy
David A
Pilot history: I have a Sandstone EX with currently 115,000 highway miles. I purchased the Pilot new around August of 2002. I change oil every 3000 miles, transmission every 25,000 miles and rear end every 20,000 miles. Once started, the Pilot runs continuous at around 60 to 70 MPH for at least 2 to 3 hours on the average. I replaced my timing belt, water pump, gaskets, coolant at 90,000 miles. I replaced my front brake rotors at 60K miles. I am still using the original pads. I have not done the Trans. recall yet. I carry approximately 600 lbs. of luggage, lit. and people. This includes my weight. I have never towed or pulled anything and I have never been "OFF-ROADING". All work is done by Honda Dealers. (Except a few oil changes)
The problem: I finally replaced my original Goodyear tires at 105,000 miles with the same size Michelins Cross Terrains. (I do not recommend these tires. My gas mileage went down 2 MPG on the highway). I took my Pilot to have a "4 wheel" alignment. After the alignment, the Pilot started to pull to the left. The dealer set it to "spec" but said the Pilot has been adjusted to the max. Still slightly pulling and thinking this dealers alignment machine could be out of spec, I took it to another dealer where he said the rear springs are sagging.
I called the 800 Honda service line and they basically told me that since the Pilot had over a 100K on it, tough luck. My argument didn't pan out. (I told them that there was nothing in the owners manual that said "When changing your timing belt, RE-SPRING you Pilot. )
I have a 97 Ford Expedition with over a 150K miles and I have never replaced springs on it. (and I tow a boat with it). My pathfinder had 250,000 miles and I never put springs on it. In fact, I have never bought springs for any of my cars.
Has anyone else had any problems with rear spring fatigue on their 2 year old Pilots. Honda wants about $250.00 to replace them. I feel it is an inherent design flaw and could cause me to loose control under certain conditions. In addition, I am causing uneven tire wear on my new tires.
Aside from this issue, the Pilot is great. Sorry to be sooo wordy
David A