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sicko
02-26-2008, 03:55 PM
Hey, this is my first post on this forum so before anything else I'd like to say hello to everyone, so Hello.

I'm currently in the market for a new car and the 2008 CRV is one of the main cars I'm looking at but I had a question about it. At the dealership there was a CRV on display and the battery was either dead or disconnected. All the passenger doors were unlocked but the tailgate was locked and I couldn't figure out how you would unlock and open it without the battery.

The primary reason I'm asking is because if my battery was to go dead my jumper cables would be in the back, probably beneath the floor with the spare tire. So how would I be able to get them out? Without the battery I couldn't unlock the back, or even if the back could be unlocked the button that opens the tailgate would also require electricity (I assume). Unlike the passenger doors there is no keyhole to use and the handle to open it appears to be an electric button and not a mechanical handle like the passenger doors.

Anyways, I went and checked out the Nissan Rogue after leaving the Honda dealership and noticed it has the same thing going on (electric button to open the tailgate and no keyhole).

I asked sales men at both dealerships and neither one knew. I'm sure there has to be a way, I can't imagine it would be something that was overlooked by both manufacturers. If any of you could shed some light on this for me it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, sicko

1ownerT
02-26-2008, 04:07 PM
It's a Honda, the battery will never go dead. :mrgreen:

bfax11
02-26-2008, 04:07 PM
page 93 of the manual - not trivial to do, but in an emergency, this is how you do it...

https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/9B0707/9B0707O00090A.pdf

sleeksilver
02-26-2008, 04:23 PM
page 93 of the manual - not trivial to do, but in an emergency, this is how you do it...

https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/9B0707/9B0707O00090A.pdf

The OP means the battery to the actual vehicle, not the remote... :)

I don't believe you can open the back door if the battery is completely dead. My Integra was the same way but you will find a way to get to your jumper cables if you need to.

Oh yeah, CR-V > Rogue. 8)

bfax11
02-26-2008, 04:29 PM
The link brings up page 90, but I did say p. 93. I answered the OP based on the vehicle battery being dead - the instructions on p. 93 show how to manually open the hatch due to malfunction of the unlocking system (basically, how to move the latch by hand inside the door). Didn't mean to create confusion on the link - it's just the way Honda has the manual sectioned that brings it up that way.

erniep
02-26-2008, 04:52 PM
All saturns come with a trap-mechanism. Tell me this isn't available.

Duh.

-Ernie

2unique
02-26-2008, 08:08 PM
you have to climb in, remove a plate and use the manual release... it's written about in here somewhere.

a search!

erniep
02-26-2008, 08:11 PM
TA - DA

Golden Biscuit goes to Uniq today!

-Ernie

jeprox
02-27-2008, 11:12 AM
wonder why honda didnt use a manual handle. it would be better imo

erniep
02-27-2008, 11:19 AM
More sci-fi ish.

sleeksilver
02-27-2008, 11:35 AM
wonder why honda didnt use a manual handle. it would be better imo

Might have been easier not to? :confused:

mdugan7000
02-27-2008, 11:56 AM
Electric openers weigh less and have fewer moving parts. This is also why even the cheapest of vehicles have electric windows rather than crank ones anymore.

erniep
02-27-2008, 12:04 PM
Too bad levers, cables and pulleys are STILL more reliable than electronics :mrgreen:

jeprox
02-27-2008, 02:08 PM
best combo is manual handle, keyhole and powerlock.
you can open the hatch anytime u need to. with or without dead battery :mrgreen:

dbAudio
02-27-2008, 04:01 PM
Honda's cutting costs. It's that much less not to equip the new V's with handles and keyholes, and supposedly it's another reason to go to the dealer when the average joe can't fix his electronically controlled hatch.

I must ask, to all those V owners who have thoroughly used and experimented with their V, can you still use the alarm remote to open the rear hatch?

MiniUteShopper
02-27-2008, 05:24 PM
I don't want to sound like a Honda Cheerleader, but I think Honda does a pretty good job at figuring a good balance between price and what the customer needs. When it comes to ergonomics I like Honda over the other regular brands ( I am not too familiar with Lexus, Mercedes, and other luxury makes )

Perhaps we should take a poll and see how many people have been locked out of their cargo area with a dead batter ? ( I am guessing its a pretty low number )

Sure it would be nice if they had an external key lock and an internal handle...but then you start to think....it'd be nice if they had dual battery set up, and maybe put hand cranks on each window too...oooh....and a footpedal that would run the wipers in case your battery dies when its raining. Oh my god....I just realized I can't open my sunroof with a dead battery....what if my battery dies on a hot day....ooooh...what if the battery fails when I am going around a corner on an icy road......they should have a little windmill behind the grill that powers the stability control ?!?!?!!??

Maybe Honda thought of it all, and designed the car with a good electrical system and a well matched battery that doesn't fail very often.


I don't mean to make light of your question....well....I guess I do....but it strikes me as very strange that you are still in the shopping stages of getting a car, and have gotten hung up the inability to open the rear door with a dead battery problem, when it doesn't really seem to be a problem anyway. If you like everything else about the CR-V and this is a deal breaker for you, get a 12 volt battery from a cordless drill and wire it up to a cigarette lighter plug. Plug that in you accessory power outlet, turn the key on, and unlock the doors.

OH...and welcome to the forum....its full of lots of people a whole lot more friendly and less sarcastic than I am. You'll love it here, no matter what SUV you choose.

erniep
02-27-2008, 06:03 PM
Let's take a poll of how many of us got stuck in our back-end because we assumed there was a handle on the inside? :mrgreen:

-Ernie

mdugan7000
02-27-2008, 06:08 PM
Let's take a poll of how many of us got stuck in our back-end because we assumed there was a handle on the inside? :mrgreen:

-ErnieYou might want to rephrase that, Ernie... :shock:

erniep
02-27-2008, 06:14 PM
What? Who HASN'T pulled a "Superman" by changing in the back of a truck?

-Ernie

dudeodude
02-27-2008, 06:19 PM
I've heard of many failures of mechanical door or trunk locks and much less of electrical ones. Latest example is the trunk lock on 06+ Civics where either the key or the trunk relese would not open the trunk......the solution-you have to disassemble the rear seat in order to get to the trunk where the emergency trunk opener is (trust me - to do that is not fun at all). I don't know why Honda cheapened on that one when it could have just put key to the emergency trunk release on the rear deck as the Accords have.
I am sure if that was an electrical release less people would have been left out unable to open their trunks (and there should have been quite a few people with this problem if Honda issued TSB).

At least with the CR-V it would be very easy - all you have to do is fold the rear seat, get in the back, take the small plastic cover of the trunk lock and manually open it.

dbAudio
02-27-2008, 06:29 PM
dudeodude, I definitely know what your talking about with the civics. I had a friend who had that exact issue with his Civic as well as many others. That may be a design flaw, or most likely just poor quality control/build quality because he had A/C switch problems too.

MiniUteShopper
02-27-2008, 06:29 PM
If you like to dress up as Superman and get "stuck in your back-end" that's your business, But I don't know if we should be discussing it on a CR-V forum

Racoon
02-27-2008, 06:54 PM
What? Who HASN'T pulled a "Superman" by changing in the back of a truck?
The last time I did that was in a VW Westfalia Camper Van...that had curtains on all the windows.

And the rear hatch had a handle on the inside you could pull to open the hatch, even if it was locked from the outside.

:lol:

texgal
02-27-2008, 08:40 PM
I've heard of many failures of mechanical door or trunk locks and much less of electrical ones. Latest example is the trunk lock on 06+ Civics where either the key or the trunk relese would not open the trunk......the solution-you have to disassemble the rear seat in order to get to the trunk where the emergency trunk opener is (trust me - to do that is not fun at all). I don't know why Honda cheapened on that one when it could have just put key to the emergency trunk release on the rear deck as the Accords have.
I am sure if that was an electrical release less people would have been left out unable to open their trunks (and there should have been quite a few people with this problem if Honda issued TSB).

At least with the CR-V it would be very easy - all you have to do is fold the rear seat, get in the back, take the small plastic cover of the trunk lock and manually open it.

Why even fold the rear seat? I can just crawl over it:lol:

2unique
02-28-2008, 12:31 AM
Now you can stick small children (or granny) in there and not have them fall out!

AoS
02-28-2008, 05:32 AM
It's a Honda, the battery will never go dead. :mrgreen:

There's a recall on-going for the 2007 diesel CR-V in Europe because there's some sensor in the engine that might keep running after the car is stopped ... causing the battery to go empty in 24 hours.

erniep
02-28-2008, 06:11 AM
I posted a while back about when that happened (a year ago, company party). Changed into my dress clothes in the back in "record time" . . .then had to hop over a full-sized brittax car seat to get out :mrgreen:

arboldt
02-28-2008, 07:08 AM
It seems the primary concern is to be able to get battery cables stored in the spare tire well if the battery is dead.

Even with a 'dead' battery, there's usually enough current left for minimal-power things like door locks or radio, even if there's not enough current to crank the engine. The only time it would be a real issue is if the battery itself was missing. In that case, there are bigger issues than the hatch door lock.

06whtcrv
03-01-2008, 06:45 AM
What about one of those 9-volt adaptors used to keep the radio memory and clocks accurate while the battery is out? Would that be enough power to open the hatch?