Turbo or Type R?

[saro]

Hey

I have a White, 3 door, 1999, 2X4, HR-V, i have ideas how to mod it, but I don’t know what to choose, switch the engine with a Civic Type R or turbo charge the engine with a kit like GReedy offers for Civic? I would appreciate replies from everyone and some advice.

Thank you

[DIFF_LOCK_CR-V_AWD]

Well a engine switch is gona cost a lot more than adding a turbo (why no super charge?) but adding a turbo will strain the engine (the amount depends on the PSI levels) you probably know all this but just a reminder...

But if you don't want to use a charger change the "head" from a type-R
that is if they are the same cc im not sure but if they are you could fit it on. But when you change the head that is because you want more HP and that means higher RPMs and the gearbox might not cope with the RPMs... But again the head costs qwite a bit so its up to you but im not sugesting on a CIVIC engine costly and not as compatable as just a head change...

[HRV-BEN-UK]

Just buying a super charger alone can cost about US$7000. Installation may take a weekend to do if you are a compitent mechanic but gear box would fail for sure and the clutch also.

I would go for the type r version but the drive train would take some strain. Not to sure whether I would risk it.

[mrtn]

as i've said before - get a full swap incl. the engine, tranny and ECU from a crashed Civic TypeR, there should be plenty of those around on insurance companies' auctions.

[saro]

Hey

Finally I've been waiting so long for a reply, a turbo kit with intercooler here costs about £2000 CYP ($4000 USD) and superchargers should cost about £7000 CYP ($14 000 USD) a Type R conversion 2nd hand is about £600 - £700 CYP ($1200 - $1400 USD) and the conversion includes the head of the engine, gearbox, back disc brakes and clutch. All these prices don't include installation, that's what makes everything more expensive, but the thing I don't really know is if I lower the car about 4cm will it be still too high for the power conversion? I'm going to include strut bars and Anti Roll bars but still the car will be too tall.

Also one other thing, the original tire size of the HR-V is 205/60-16 if I put say 205/40-16 or anyhow lower tires what's really gonna affect on the car, only the speedometer and KM covered or other things too? Lowering the tire size will actually lower the center of gravity of the car.

[saro]

hey

as i've said before - get a full swap incl. the engine, tranny and ECU from a crashed Civic TypeR, there should be plenty of those around on insurance companies' auctions.

Well i dont know about other places but here Cypriots actually recover crashed cars even though its been in an accident 5 times.

I know a Type R which is quiet strong, it has changed 4 owners because its been in 4 different accidents.

Ppl are pathetic here!

[HRV-BEN-UK]

Well you seem to have it all sorted out.

The only thing is, is it really worth it as a civic type-r is all ready to go.

But like me you want to be different and leave everyone guessing in why your HR-V is so fast. Also the car looks very agressive if you lower it due to its styling so if you have the money go for it. I think outside of Japan you may be the first to go down this route.

Good luck

[saro]

Hehe well yea it will be unique, but ppl are more likely to think why I am such an idiot of putting a Type R sign on the HR-V since they are sure its not, because there are allot of integras that have the Type R sign but they are only VTEC. Where I live I am in the center of town and the Clubbing area and the fancy roads are about 10KM diameter (Small place innit?), in this area ive counted about 63 Integras Type R's. It's hell!

i really want to do this conversion, and i want to order a body kit from Japan, I found a very good deal by Seiken, all around body kit with suspension, without the rims in the pic and all delivery and tax costs covered, comes up to 277,110 jpy that’s about 2,549.78 USD which is good.

http://www.s-2.co.jp/sonic/lineup/hr_v/g/hrv_f.jpg
http://www.s-2.co.jp/sonic/lineup/hr_v/g/hrv_r.jpg

If you interested in this body kit you can contact this email which will provide you info on exporting the body kit to other countries: ss@boom-enterprises.com

Anyway thanks for the advice, it’s been very helpful and nice talking to you, I'll be glad to receive more info on this forum.

[saro]

Hey

i finaly found what i wanted, check this site out, on the left there is a button with "My HR-V" on it, go and check out Honda HR-V Type R

http://www.geocities.jp/nobuta58/

[Vigor25]

I voted for the TypeR in your poll...its way easier to drop in an engine than to supercharge an engine and replace pistons and rocker arms, etc. to compensate for the increased combustion

those body kit looks siiick man....ur hrv will surely be the centre of attention

u sure those are Integra Type-Rs that u see around ur area or normal Integras with type-R badging? :D

[hondacbr]

I'd rather go for a wide kit for HRV, instead of lowering it.
The HRV design looks cool when it's higher from the ground, and a wide kit, would make it damn cool.
I would make mine lower 1 inch, race suspension and wider 1 inch on both sides.

If are going to supercharge the HRV, the gearbox could make it, but the clutch won't !, it is very slow. Even on a stock HRV the clutch can't cope with quick gear changes. When I change the gear from 1st to 2nd at over 7000rpm sometimes it sounds horrible and almost does not enter in the 2nd gear...

If you will fit a Civic Type R engine, be careful with the transmission as the back side of the transmission is weak. It would be better to use some parts from the CRV to make it more reliable.

[saro]

Hey

u sure those are Integra Type-Rs that u see around ur area or normal Integras with type-R badging? :D

I stated this in the previous msg "there are allot of integras that have the Type R sign but they are only VTEC" and thanks for voting

I'd rather go for a wide kit for HRV, instead of lowering it.
The HRV design looks cool when it's higher from the ground, and a wide kit, would make it damn cool.
I would make mine lower 1 inch, race suspension and wider 1 inch on both sides.

The lowering is not only for looks, the way the car is now, can tip over easily with a Type R engine, one time I did a 180 turning with like 60 and it went on the two wheels, I didn’t feel it but a friend pissed his pants when he saw me! So if I change the engine I have to change the suspension and get it as low as I can get!

[hondacbr]

You can increase the roll resistance, also if you make it wider, and lower not more than 1 inch, a stiff suspension and bigger rims, with all these mods I don't think you will able to roll over the car.

[hondacbr]

This guy made his HRV wider, but it looks horrible with that bullbar, he should put a sport spoiler on the entire car.

[saro]

Hey

You can increase the roll resistance, also if you make it wider, and lower not more than 1 inch, a stiff suspension and bigger rims, with all these mods I don't think you will able to roll over the car.

I think you got it all wrong by making the car wider and not pulling apart the tires your not making the car more stable. to keep the hight the same you have to pull apart the tires like the hammer, its the same hight but there is more chance for the HR-V to roll over cause the hammer is wider.

Even if i put bigger rims the ceter of gravity will still be the same hight, Ok i have to choices, cut the car in half and add another half meter to the width or lowering it, which one would you choose?

[DIFF_LOCK_CR-V_AWD]

hey guys why cant saro just change the head????

I mean its cheaoer and easyer

[saro]

That is what i'm planning to do, only the head not the entire engine!

[hondacbr]

you don't need to add a half meter to the car, as I said if you make it wider (of course the tyre positions, not just the body of the car), and lower just 1 inch + stiff race suspension, you'll never roll it (only if you hit something when you make drift).
The HRV is very stable even in stock form, at 120km/h on a good road I can turn the car instantly an it does not roll (I did this with the 3door HRV VTEC, 2002 model, which also has an updated stabiliser bar, the older models I heard that have a bad stabiliser bar). At over 120km/h is getting more dangerous and at over 170km/h if you take too tight corners then you can roll over.

[HRV-BEN-UK]

Lower it for sure

[saro]

Hey

Ok now i got what you talking about but i like it lower cause i like the gap between the tire and the wing to be small and tight. When you say stabiliser bar you talking about stru bar or something else? if you talking about strut bar then what brand is it? Is it OMP by any chance?

[hondacbr]

You can fill the gap between the tire and wing by fitting bigger wheels :D
I'm talking about the stabiliser bar which is a completly different thing than the strut bar.

[mrtn]

gimme a break DIFF_LOCK_CR-V_AWD!
get yourself a decent avatar :D

[saro]

Hey

You can fill the gap between the tire and wing by fitting bigger wheels :D
I'm talking about the stabiliser bar which is a completly different thing than the strut bar.

Eh well no u can't fill the gap between the tire and wing by fitting bigger wheels, cause the height of the tire has to stay the same with the factory one so theoretically and practically no matter what rim size i put (except if I put 24" and more) the height will be the same second, bigger rim affects ur car strength im not sure how it cuts off from the top speed or from the acc, I don’t remember and finally if i put bigger rims like 18', each tire will cost me about £180 each! NO THANKS!!!!

[saro]

Well decision is made I’m gonna swap the engine with Civic Type R, now lets wait for a looser to crash!

[HRV-BEN-UK]

Keep us informed.

[saro]

Hey

One important thing i compleatly forgot about! HR-V engine is single cam, Type R engine is twin cam that means i have to change the entire engine! a new one here is like £4000. I cant belive i never thought of that! Today i was looking at my engine thinking, "Funny Type R engine looks bigger!"

Well i have only one choice! Go to a dealer like 4 AM and unscrewing the engine off a Civic Type R. Like whos gonna relize i stole an engine?

[Vigor25]

Well i have only one choice! Go to a dealer like 4 AM and unscrewing the engine off a Civic Type R. Like whos gonna relize i stole an engine?
eeeeyes...u do that... :)

[saro]

Hey how heavy could it be? what problems could i possibly get it? its like go in, unscrew, lift and go!