Missing GDO Option

[Longo]

It would seem that Honda is still playing a very old and tiresome 'Option Game' with buyers. Perhaps they didn't invent the game of forcing buyers higher up the model line to get what they need, but they sure havn't helped either.

My daughters 2007 CRV EX-L is a good example. One would think that her new vehicle that includes a built in rear view camera and a Navi System would come with a built in Garage door opener.

My daughter needs 2 'remotes' to open a gate and the garage door, so now she has her sunvisor clutered with remotes...again. Her 7 year old trade in had the feature, both of my cars have it but guess what...If you move up the product line from the CRV and buy the Honda Pilot...it has it!

Now that I think of it, even my old 1992 Dodge Mini Van has a place in the overhead console to put a GDO and then just tap on the covering door and it actuates the hidden GDO that is held in place with Velcro. Amazing how this Fred Flinstone invention to the problem of dangerously hanging remotes on the sun vizor, altho crude, actually works.

Does Honda really think that by leaving out this feature in the CRV that one would buy the more expensive, gas guzzler Pilot? I guess so.

If she had known that the CRV didn't have this feature, she would not have made the deal.

Just thought this needs mentioning for your future consideration when Honda car shopping.:evil:

[Racoon]

Amazing how this Fred Flinstone invention to the problem of dangerously hanging remotes on the sun vizor, altho crude, actually works.
Okay, I'll bite.

Why do you think it's dangerous to clip the remote on the visor?

:)

[sleeksilver]

Hi troll. http://www.automotivetech.org/at/images/smilies/kickass.gif

Since when has it been dangerous to clip a flippin remote to the visor (not vizor)? Get real....


Let me tell you something, if you DON'T buy a car because it does not have a place for your garage door opener you have bigger problems. The lack of HomeLink or a place for your "GDO" will NOT make someone buy a larger, more expensive vehicle. That was not Hondas intent at all.

I don't think your post is going to influence anyones purchase. http://www.automotivetech.org/at/images/smilies/hay.gif

[Longo]

[quote=sleeksilver;211439]Hi troll. http://www.automotivetech.org/at/images/smilies/kickass.gif




"a place for your "GDO" will NOT make someone buy a larger, more expensive vehicle. That was not Hondas intent at all."

Well I am glad we are making some head way here. Sleeksilver seems to know why Honda has no Homelink feature in the CRV. Please tell us.

[mdugan7000]

We put them in the worthless pull out cup holder in the 99 and in the cubbyhole below the radio in the 04. Better out of site than out where someone can see it, because your garage can be entered with it... :idea:

[dreese9859]

LOL there's two small compartments under the gear shifter and one to the lower left of the steering wheel. You also got storage spaces on the bottom of the doors that can keep it out of sight. You also have a closing compartment area above the glove compartment. I live in a gated community and have a garage door opener as well ... the CR-V not having specific compartments for it are the least of my worries. My mom has a programmable garage door opener built into her visor for the Pathfinder. That would be nice on the CR-V.

[sleeksilver]

Because it will increase the price of the CRV, and it is an option that people don't NEED. Also, there are plenty of places to mount a GDO other than on the visor, out of sight which is better.

Go price yourself a CRV with all of it's options in the UK and then tell me if you would be willing to pay that much buddy.
www.honda.co.uk (http://www.honda.co.uk)


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[Longo]

"Because it will increase the price of the CRV, and it is an option that people don't NEED." www.honda.co.uk (http://www.honda.co.uk)


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Mitch,
I can honestly say, never having been to the UK, that the price of the CRV is plenty high enough here in North America. As for your comment that a Homelink feature in the CRV is not needed in the UK.

Perhaps we need it because we have have Garages?

[sleeksilver]

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I never said that the feature was not needed in the UK, of course they have garages in England. I was talking about the US. Adding HomeLink to the USDM CRV would only add to the price.

I was suggesting that you price out a CRV there, to demonstrate what options and extras do to the final cost. Honda has been very successful in the past with the way they package their vehicles in America (with no factory options). DX, LX, EX, EX-L, SE, etc. They come with their equipment, and everything else is just a dealer added acccessory. It keeps the price of the vehicle down.

[bumpzter]

And the 'make excuses for CR-V' brigade is in full force. Many vehicles that cost a lot less than a CR-V have Home Link. And other extra cost CR-V features. So what? Let the buyers decide what's important to them.

If this feature is important to Longo, what's wrong with mentioning it?

[Longo]

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"Honda has been very successful in the past with the way they package their vehicles in America (with no factory options). DX, LX, EX, EX-L, SE, etc. They come with their equipment, and everything else is just a dealer added acccessory. It keeps the price of the vehicle down."


Well Mitch, I am not comparing Hot dogs to Crumpits, Honda certainly IS "successful" in charging huge amounts for those 'factory options' both in the UK and in North America.

I own a Honda Odyssey EX-L sitting in the garage right now that has the Homelink feature in it. My reason for posting on this CRV site is to let people know that the Honda CRV EX-L does not have it.

If I am in the wrong Honda forum for that information, please let me know.

[sleeksilver]

And the 'make excuses for CR-V' brigade is in full force. Many vehicles that cost a lot less than a CR-V have Home Link. And other extra cost CR-V features. So what? Let the buyers decide what's important to them.

If this feature is important to Longo, what's wrong with mentioning it?


I'm not defending the CRV or Honda... What I am doing is stating how rediculous it is not to purchase a vehicle because it doesn't have a little overhead cubby to put the GDO in :roll:

Well Mitch, I am not comparing Hot dogs to Crumpits, Honda certainly IS "successful" in charging huge amounts for those 'factory options' both in the UK and in North America.

I own a Honda Odyssey EX-L sitting in the garage right now that has the Homelink feature in it. My reason for posting on this CRV site is to let people know that the Honda CRV EX-L does not have it.

If I am in the wrong Honda forum for that information, please let me know.

You are in the right forum.

How much did your Oddy cost you? It IS more expensive than the CRV by a large margin.

I think people buying the new CRV are aware of what it has, and what it doesn't. If they make a mistake, that is their fault. What you did say is how your daughter wouldn't have purchased the vehicle if she knew it didn't have the cubby, which is her mistake. Also, you said it is dangerous to have remotes hanging on a visor, which makes no sense as there are multiple places you can mount a GDO with double sided tape.

[erniep]

----Adding the edit to the top----
Okay, so, steering this in a productive direction, the next question is:
Would the odyssey unit fit in the CR-V?

blueiedgod did a fit on his CR-V:
http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopic.php?p=179741#179741

A bunch of other people did as well. In the end, if you can hook up with some of the people that did a modification, it would probably cost less money to get a part and install it than if they would have added it as a "feature".

-----original post below---
A garage door opener is a pretty specific piece of equipment. I found it curious that the CR-V didn't have auto-headlights (only available on Oddyssy and Pilot when I looked a while back) and that seems like a more reasonable feature than a garage door opener because not everyone has a garage.

That's just me though. Cupholders may be someone else's breaking point - but I wouldn't exactly call it a conspiracy to upsell to a totally different vehicle.

Honda's way of packaging features into trims has it's pros and cons.

The nice thing is that you can decide on what you like, go to a dealer, and get what you prefer.

A la carte is nice, because you don't need to buy additional features, or you can get what you want, but that really isn't the case in practice. You have to locate a specific car that has the features, and most of the time you take or leave something, because they can't find your option set.

The other thing is that when you find "packages" with other dealers, have you noticed that one thing is required for another that you don't really care about? Now that's forced upselling.

Why does GM make you have onstar equipment???? What if I want to be alone? =)

Just another perspective.

-Ernie

[colorider]

I feel this thread should be moved "Issues and complaints! What's wrong with my CR-V?" or perhaps "Help me decide, why the 2007 Honda CR-V?" since the title of THIS sub-forum is "Things you didn't know about your 2007 Honda CR-V" and I'm quite sure (most) everyone here that owns a 2007 Honda CR-V knew it did not come with HomeLink BEFORE they bought it.

I did anyway and it sure wasn't a show-stopper for me!!! My "GDO" sits quite nicely in the little compartment to the left of the steering wheel.

[4hondaowner]

I see nothing wrong with Logo's initial thread. The bottom three lines could have been left out. And to get Racoon to bite, an impression has been made.

I have not seen the inside of the 2007 CR-V. What Honda probably didn't do is to get a panel of people together to look at the CR-V before production. I'm sure most of us have done that at one point in time. Surely somebody might have said in the roundtable discussion that there is not good place for a garage door opener.

I know the twins have their GDO in the area under where you pull up the emergency brake. I have mine in a small area under my radio. My wife uses the clip method on the passenger visor. We are surviving.

Now let's kiss and make up and be nice to Longo.

[Longo]

"[QUOTE]The other thing is that when you find "packages" with other dealers, have you noticed that one thing is required for another that you don't really care about? Now that's forced upselling."

Ernie, I totaly agree that "Forced Upselling" is not exclusivly a Honda issue. For example to get the Satelight Radio option in our new 2007 Nissan Versa, you have to take the Sunroof!

No what I am saying is, for my daughters new Honda CRV EX-L with Navigation, back up camera, leather heated seats....where the hell is the Homelink?

Do they think all CRV owners park them out on the street at night?

As for hanging her remote openers all over the place with "double sided tape" to mitigate this oversight, all I can say to Sleeksilver is WHAT!!?

[erniep]

Do they think all CRV owners park them out on the street at night?

Yes, if you're 'po folk like me =)

When I was little, they called garage-door openers kids ;)

-Ernie

[wm21]

you can add this, search the site for the Homelink and order the part off ebay or a dealer...

[sleeksilver]

As for hanging her remote openers all over the place with "double sided tape" to mitigate this oversight, all I can say to Sleeksilver is WHAT!!?

Maybe you aren't the DIY type of guy. Soooo you can either do something about the "dangerous" GDOs all over the visor or all over your car (you make it sound as if there are 20 of them), or you can mount them somewhere else where you don't see them and they won't pose a threat to the driver, passenger, whoever. :?

A quick google search found this http://www.aaaremotes.com/clicunem.html and you can mount the ONE remote anywhere you want. http://www.automotivetech.org/at/images/smilies/headscratch.gif

[liquidfuel88]

why no Homelink?

perhaps it's because not every CR-V owner has a garage?

also, i would say that the less fussy features a car has, the less problems it will have.

JM2C

[Longo]

you can add this, search the site for the Homelink and order the part off ebayor a dealer...

Thanks wm and eriep, When I just did an eBay search for Homelink, I got about 200 hits, and I have looked at the guys who also think this is enough of an issue to actually do something about it, thanks erniep.
My daughter now needs 3 separate remotes to open a 20' electric gate, a double garage door and some security lights.
The police will tell anyone with the good sense to listen, never to mount GDO's anywhere visible in a vehicle. Fine, now you are coming home at night and have to find and fumble through separte remotes to get things done.
On the Visor is the worst place for security reasons, and in case of an accident you might wind up wearing one of them imbedded in your head.
NOT a good look.
So I guess it's off to eBay to solve the missing CRV, GDO issue.

[Longo]

why no Homelink?

i would say that the less fussy features a car has, the less problems it will have.

JM2C


Thanks for that advice liquidfuel, this coming from a guy with a custom DVD installation.

[liquidfuel88]

if cliping the opener on the visor is such a hazard, why not just clip it to the top side so when the visor is closed, the visor is clamping it in place between the visor and the roof? and it's also not visible!

also, i don't know about other openers but my opener's clip is so tight, it leaves an imprint at least 1/4 inch thick in the visor. so i highly doubt that would go flying off. plus, mine is mounted to the side of the visor.

:)

[DBinCA]

A quick google search found this http://www.aaaremotes.com/clicunem.html and you can mount the ONE remote anywhere you want. http://www.automotivetech.org/at/images/smilies/headscratch.gif

Google also finds this company (http://opendoorsandmore.com/home.php), which is selling a Homelink-compatible visor-mount wireless system: controls up to 3 remotes from a single unit, just like the built-in versions.

I like to keep my GDO clipped inside the driver's door storage area. It keeps my visor un-dented :lol:, it's out of sight of prying eyes, and I can use it by feel while keeping my eyes on the road...er, driveway.

I think Honda's done a pretty decent job of content on the CR-V. There are always going to be tradeoffs based on cost, manufacturing complexity, or perceived demand. Add rear seat A/C vents, and we'll hear, "What? No climate control?" Add power seats and we'll hear, "What? No memory function?" Add an iPod input jack (I know, it's there already) and hear, "What? No steering wheel iPod controls?" I'd like to see the rear-view backup camera available separately from the nav system...like *that's* ever going to happen!

[liquidfuel88]

Thanks for that advice liquidfuel, this coming from a guy with a custom DVD installation.

sure, i do have some additional features on my car, but they are not manufacturer features that would require a trip to a dealership.

if anything went wrong with my "features," i would be able to replace it myself with any kind of part i want.

but with manufacturer/dealer parts, i would have to use their parts and pay an outrageous amount of money

;)

[Longo]

[quote=DBinCA;211492]

Google also finds this company (http://opendoorsandmore.com/home.php), which is selling a Homelink-compatible visor-mount wireless system: controls up to 3 remotes from a single unit, just like the built-in versions.

DBinCA,

Just a note to say thanks for the link and to mention that your CRV "The Dolphin" is identical to my daughters, GREAT color, AWD and leather heated seats.

When I was young the first vehicle I ever owned had a stick shift and only one gauge on the dash that had a speedo and 2 idiot lights. Two cold, slick plastic covered seats and a whole 36 HP.

Thank God those days and that car, are long gone.

[Niea]

Well, for one, I'm glad the CR-V doesn't come with Homelink. I have one of the "few" kinds of GDOs that cannot be programmed. I cannot use a "universal" remote, nothing. It's a racket, I agree, but that's between the garage door company and me. I'd have been super annoyed if I had paid extra for a "feature" that not only was unnecessary, but a waste of space.

Oh, and I keep my GDO either in the cubby under the shifter, in the door pocket, or just sitting on the console. I don't see a problem with this. In fact, I'd have clipped it to the visor except it's too thick for the clip on the GDO.

[sleeksilver]

When I was young the first vehicle I ever owned had a stick shift and only one gauge on the dash that had a speedo and 2 idiot lights. Two cold, slick plastic covered seats and a whole 36 HP.



That sounds like a beetle!

[Racoon]

I have a remote for my garage clipped to the passenger side visor. I'm still not getting why it's a problem?

Would it be nice to have a built in "homelink" device in the CR-V? Sure, but not if caused Honda to raise the price of the CR-V.


This is one of my many complaints about US residents (aka "Americans") who think that every vehicle needs every feature, bell, whistle, and gadget they've seen in every other vehicle they've ever driven...and that adding all those extra features should NOT increase the the price.

TANSTAAFL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TANSTAAFL)

And yes, I was born and raised in the US, and my family has been here since the early 1600's, so I have the right to criticize "American" behaviour.

JM2C

[Longo]

[quote=Racoon;211509]

Would it be nice to have a built in "homelink" device in the CR-V? Sure, but not if caused Honda to raise the price of the CR-V.

This is one of my many complaints about US residents (aka "Americans") who think that every vehicle needs every feature, bell, whistle, and gadget they've seen in every other vehicle they've ever driven...and that adding all those extra features should NOT increase the the price.

Come on Racoon, give us all a break, no one except you gives a rats ass about how much the addition of a Homelink in the CRV EX-L would raise the price.
As you don't have that model, don't presume those who are willing to buy the top of the line Honda's would choke at an extra few bucks for the feature. Last time I looked The Acura MDX was also selling well.

It's about security, convienience, and the fact that Honda won't add a popular feature until competion forces them to.
Homelink has been around for years in other makes before Honda started putting it in their vehicles.

Why do you care about how much the new saftey and security features cost, in the EX-L, the individual consumer decides what they want in a 2007 Vehicle. Honda raises prices because they can, do your really think the Loaded CRV is any cheaper because it is missing the Homelink?

The phony fabric guard option they tried to stiff my daughter with would have easily put in a homelink..and the seats were LEATHER! That didn't stop them from trying to run up the price some more. The only thing that keeps Honda honest is that "Americans" can still pick up their check book and walk across the street and buy another brand.
Some of them with more standard features, better warranty and thousands less.

[4hondaowner]

Honda

Happy Owners Never Drive Anything else.

[sleeksilver]

[quote=Racoon;211509]

Would it be nice to have a built in "homelink" device in the CR-V? Sure, but not if caused Honda to raise the price of the CR-V.

This is one of my many complaints about US residents (aka "Americans") who think that every vehicle needs every feature, bell, whistle, and gadget they've seen in every other vehicle they've ever driven...and that adding all those extra features should NOT increase the the price.

Come on Racoon, give us all a break, no one except you gives a rats ass about how much the addition of a Homelink in the CRV EX-L would raise the price.

The phony fabric guard option they tried to stiff my daughter with would have easily put in a homelink..and the seats were LEATHER!.


First off, really bad idea to talk to a MODERATOR like that. http://www.automotivetech.org/at/images/smilies/behead.gif

Second, THE DEALER tries to make a profit by offering those additions. NOT HONDA. No matter where you buy a car from, and what make or model it could be, the dealer will always try to add something like that.

[liquidfuel88]

Honda

Happy Owners Never Drive Anything else.

agreed eleventy billion times!!!

[4hondaowner]

IANMTU

Racoon getting a very bad rap in this thread.

[sleeksilver]

IANMTU

Racoon getting a very bad rap in this thread.

???

How is Rac getting a bad rap? What is IANMTU? :confused:

[mdugan7000]

What's a homelink? LOL We call it a garage door opener. :|

I feel in rare company to know that when we bought the 2004 new and a month later, the 99, used, that my dealer used none of those add-on tactics. There was zero pressure. We made a deal and signed paperwork and went on our way.

[4hondaowner]

I am not making this up.

[sleeksilver]

I am not making this up.

and how is Rac getting a bad rap for this thread???

[4hondaowner]

Original post, which we have gotten away from often, discusses daughter having 2 remotes in new CR-V. If you type in "headlights to open garage door" in your favorite Yahoo or whatever site, there are products out there to eliminate one remote.

I'm going to leave it to another writer to figure out how to open the gate so daughter doesn't have to have any remotes in her CR-V. That way we can put this thread to bed.

[mdugan7000]

Just a thought.
Why would ONE car need to open BOTH garage doors on a double door set? Does someone play roulette with who gets the better side of the garage? Am I missing something?

[Longo]

Just a thought.
Why would ONE car need to open BOTH garage doors on a double door set? Does someone play roulette with who gets the better side of the garage? Am I missing something?

Yes mdugan, you are missing the point of rest of the discussion.

[mdugan7000]

Yes mdugan, you are missing the point of rest of the discussion.

Actually, it seems to have become POINTLESS. :roll:

[colorider]

Honda

Happy Owners Never Drive Anything else.

I do...............

[Racoon]

The phony fabric guard option they tried to stiff my daughter with would have easily put in a homelink..and the seats were LEATHER! That didn't stop them from trying to run up the price some more. The only thing that keeps Honda honest is that "Americans" can still pick up their check book and walk across the street and buy another brand.
You're confusing the Honda Dealer with Honda the manufacturer. The Honda dealer is going to try and sell you everything they can to bump up their profit.

Some of them with more standard features, better warranty and thousands less.
Honda the manufacturer has decided that most people don't want homelink in their vehicles. If they thought differently, then all new Hondas would have it, don't you think?

Which makes me ask why your daughter didn't educate herself about what she was spending all of her money on before purchasing a vehicle that fell short of her needs?


I stand by my opinion that Americans have come to expect a lot of extras for free.
JM2C

[sleeksilver]

You're confusing the Honda Dealer with Honda the manufacturer. The Honda dealer is going to try and sell you everything they can to bump up their profit.

Which makes me ask why your daughter didn't educate herself about what she was spending all of her money on before purchasing a vehicle that fell short of her needs?


I stand by my opinion that Americans have come to expect a lot of extras for free.
JM2C

I mentioned all of the above. I agree with the last two statements. This thread has become pointless.

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[Longo]

Well after all this 'back and forth' today on the CRV not having a "Homelink" I now have it all sorted out.
Thank you erniep! That was all I was looking for, a solution. I even found a video on how to intall a Homelink in the CRV for a 'Factory' fit.

[bumpzter]

Some add roof racks, running boards, extra tint, different wheels, trailer hitch, different radio, fog lights etc etc but are afraid that Honda would add a few bucks every time someone mentions a feature they wish the CR-V had.

:rolleyes: How much could Honda have knocked off the old CR-V's to skip the picnic table? I have no need for it and never will. Never use the 6 CD changer.

But I do have a garage door opener. Homelink would be nice.

[OSX2000]

If she had known that the CRV didn't have this feature, she would not have made the deal.
And there's the punchline.

Problem: CR-V does not include Homelink, but you need it.
Solution: Buy another vehicle that has such a feature.

The fault lies not with Honda for not giving the V Homelink, it lies with an uneducated buyer. If there are certain features you require in a vehicle, it's generally a wise idea to make sure they exist before purchasing such vehicle.

Well after all this 'back and forth' today on the CRV not having a "Homelink" I now have it all sorted out.
Thank you erniep! That was all I was looking for, a solution. I even found a video on how to intall a Homelink in the CRV for a 'Factory' fit.
Careful with that, all the Homelink install how-tos I've seen are for '02-06 CR-Vs. You should definitely check to make sure the parts will work in the '07 before making any purchases.

[sleeksilver]

Careful with that, all the Homelink install how-tos I've seen are for '02-06 CR-Vs. You should definitely check to make sure the parts will work in the '07 before making any purchases.
That's what I was thinking.

[blueiedgod]

Since Longo says he has Oddy in the garage with the Homelink, the simplest solution would be to take it out of the Oddy and see if it fits in the Gen 3 CR-V. If it does, then he can purchase one from a junk yard.

I wanted homelink in mine, thanks to BBQsauce, I have homelink, now.

http://members.aol.com/blueiedgod/homelink.jpg


I think Longo is looking at it from the strictly consumer/appliance point. Some of the old time Honda owners like Hondas because they are very highly modifiable. And since Honda's manufacturing process is more lean than Toyota's, many parts are interchangeable between models and makes.