View Full Version : What you don't like about your CRV ?
silverkasik
12-10-2006, 06:43 PM
it just doesnt show the value. looks like a toy suv.
6-7 yr old bmw s gets more attention and some of them look 2-3years old.
bluewho25
12-11-2006, 09:14 AM
:?:
sleeksilver
12-11-2006, 09:35 AM
Of course a BMW gets more attention than a Honda does :?
chrisk_352
12-11-2006, 11:29 AM
It's all relative, isn't it. You are paying anywhere between 10k to 30k in price difference. 10k for bare minimum X3 and upwards of 30k for equivalent loaded X5. When you pay 20k (X3 with equivalent option to CRV) more for SUV, it should look better. It's all what you are willing to pay for a good SUV.
Btw, reliability of Honda is better than BMW.
sleeksilver
12-11-2006, 11:58 AM
I will never in my life buy an X3. Pointless SUV. I've driven a few when I did the Susan G. Komen breast cancer drive... Sure it handles well and goes nicely too, but it's wayyyy too small and too much money for what it is.
bumpzter
12-11-2006, 12:21 PM
What you dont like about your CRV ?
If you're asking about the 2007, the main thing I don't like is that I don't have one. :lol:
liquidfuel88
12-11-2006, 12:22 PM
what i don't like about the '07 CR-V?
the ugly front end, the sloped rear side window, and the lack of a rear spare tire :roll:
sleeksilver
12-11-2006, 12:41 PM
What you dont like about your CRV ?
If you're asking about the 2007, the main thing I don't like is that I don't have one. :lol:
:lol:
Okay well the main reason why I might not buy one is the lack of a 4WD Lock button :( I think this is very important.... Rac disagrees.
I would 100% buy one if they brought one here in white with tan leather, and adiesel with the 6 speed manual!!! :twisted:
I love everything else about the new CRV. It certainly looks classier than anything else in it's segment.
If I had a list of SUV's to consider under 30K it would be
-Honda CRV EX-L
-Hyundai Santa Fe Limited
-Mazda CX-7 (maybe)
-Suzuki GV (probably not)
Racoon
12-11-2006, 01:04 PM
Okay well the main reason why I might not buy one is the lack of a 4WD Lock button :( I think this is very important.... Rac disagrees.
Let's clarify that, shall we? ;)
If you think you need a vehicle with lockable 4WD, on-demand 4WD, or AWD (where all wheels get at least some power all of the time) then the CR-V is not the right vehicle (nor is the Element). It's a matter of making the right choice to meet your needs.
And despite what we may want from the CR-Vs RT4WD, it is what it is. Wishing isn't going to change the way it works.
:)
silverkasik
12-11-2006, 01:07 PM
I meant 3series sedan or coupe not X3.
for mine I paid around 25K but it just doesnt look like a 25 K vehicle.
plus I will never again buy a new car.
there are lots of low milage good cars around , if you can find for a good price dont miss it.
chrisk_352
12-11-2006, 03:11 PM
Per liquidfuel88, front do need some work. However, unlike liquidfuel88, I do like the fact that spare tire is out of sight. I guess, everbody has a different opinions as to what they like and don't like. Which is good thing.
silverkasik, when you say 25k, did you mean for 3 series or CRV?
sleeksilver
12-11-2006, 04:40 PM
Per liquidfuel88, front do need some work. However, unlike liquidfuel88, I do like the fact that spare tire is out of sight. I guess, everbody has a different opinions as to what they like and don't like. Which is good thing.
silverkasik, when you say 25k, did you mean for 3 series or CRV?
I hope he means 3 Series. If he paid that much for a CRV he is lying or got ripped off :roll:
Rac, almost all of the CRVs competition has a 4WD lock button.... The RT-4WD system is okay, but it could be much much better.
Racoon
12-11-2006, 06:35 PM
Rac, almost all of the CRVs competition has a 4WD lock button.... The RT-4WD system is okay, but it could be much much better.
I'm a computer programmer by profession. While I was learning my trade one of my instructors gave me a good example as to why we were required to learn multiple programming languages. He used the example of a hammer...
If the only tool you know how to use is a hammer then all your problems look like nails.
The RT4WD system is what it is. Regardless of what we think about it, it functions very well for what Honda designed it to do. If you need a more capable or on-demand 4WD system then the CR-V is not the right vehicle for you, and you need to accept that as much as you may like the CR-V it's not the right tool for what you want to do.
You do have a point, as Honda has two other 4WD systems available - VTM-4 from the Pilot/Ridgeline/MDX and SH-AWD from the Acura RDX. Will Honda upgrade the 4WD system on the CR-V in the future? Maybe, but my guess is that won't happen until at least the 4th Gen CR-V.
:)
sleeksilver
12-11-2006, 07:34 PM
Rac, almost all of the CRVs competition has a 4WD lock button.... The RT-4WD system is okay, but it could be much much better.
You do have a point, as Honda has two other 4WD systems available - VTM-4 from the Pilot/Ridgeline/MDX and SH-AWD from the Acura RDX. Will Honda upgrade the 4WD system on the CR-V in the future? Maybe, but my guess is that won't happen until at least the 4th Gen CR-V.
:)
I know all of this, and it does a great job at what it is mainly designed to do....
I hope they do upgrade the RT-4WD though, at least put a LSD on it :(
silverkasik
12-11-2006, 08:08 PM
Per liquidfuel88, front do need some work. However, unlike liquidfuel88, I do like the fact that spare tire is out of sight. I guess, everbody has a different opinions as to what they like and don't like. Which is good thing.
silverkasik, when you say 25k, did you mean for 3 series or CRV?
I bought 06 CRV LX and with tax and evrything came u to 25ish.
for that much money I would also buy 3series used BMW which is little expensive to maintain but much more comfortable probably. actually no comparasion - just different cars but that would satisfy my needs too.
dick w
12-11-2006, 08:11 PM
If I were king re. 3rd gen Honda CR-V:
1) auto climate control at least for EX and above
2) upgrade lighting package: side mirror turn signals, LED stop lights, HIDs, fog lights, vanity mirror lights at least for EX and above
Asking for more seems greedy. But I wouldn't miss the instantaneous MPG meter at all.
Racoon
12-11-2006, 08:13 PM
If I were king re. 3rd gen Honda CR-V:
1) auto climate control at least for EX and above
2) upgrade lighting package: side mirror turn signals, LED stop lights, HIDs, fog lights, vanity mirror lights at least for EX and above
Hmmm. Acura RDX defintely has #1, and I think it has at least a few of #2. Of course it also is quite a bit more expensive.
:)
silverkasik
12-11-2006, 08:15 PM
I dont feel comfortable while making turns. feels like its gonna roll over on one side. I had an eclipse and that car was like a snake...
dick w
12-11-2006, 08:59 PM
If I were king re. 3rd gen Honda CR-V:
1) auto climate control at least for EX and above
2) upgrade lighting package: side mirror turn signals, LED stop lights, HIDs, fog lights, vanity mirror lights at least for EX and above
Hmmm. Acura RDX defintely has #1, and I think it has at least a few of #2. Of course it also is quite a bit more expensive.
:)
We certainly cross-shopped the RDX. (And we've had four Acuras to three Hondas--before the '07 CR-V--so Acura is not out of our experience.) It does have most of this stuff.
It also gives up a large amount of fuel economy running premium and suffering from significant acceleration lag and still rolls off the lot for $7-$8k more. (The low end accounts for what I suspect is likely present desparation to move some merchandise. They were willing to deal. The Honda dealer? Not so much.)
I also think the RDX is gaudy in its overstyling. The CR-V was also noticeably quieter especially when accounting for the turbo whistle/whine of the RDX. So we bought the CR-V instead. What would I like to change about the CR-V? See above.
sleeksilver
12-11-2006, 11:36 PM
I dont feel comfortable while making turns. feels like its gonna roll over on one side. I had an eclipse and that car was like a snake...
:roll:
I've taken my CRV around a track once to look for debris one early morning with one my friends at Summit Point who is an instructor, I assure you it won't flip. If it ever were to flip going around a turn it would have happened to me that day.
Visiting_Guest
12-12-2006, 11:21 AM
What you dont like about your CRV ?
If you're asking about the 2007, the main thing I don't like is that I don't have one. :lol:
:lol:
I love everything else about the new CRV. It certainly looks classier than anything else in it's segment.
The last thing on my mind when i see an 07 CRV is class. If anything, it looks like an egg. A limited 07 Rav is certainly as sharp. But obviously this is all subjective opinion.
i dont think this segment of suvs has a classy expensive looking truck -they all look like little sport wagons (not that anythings wrong with that)
mdugan7000
12-12-2006, 12:30 PM
What I don't like is that Honda still doesn't have a diesel option in the US.
soccer_sta_86
12-12-2006, 01:09 PM
THING I DONT LIKE is lack of aftermarket and perfomrance parts.....
Visiting_Guest
12-12-2006, 01:42 PM
THING I DONT LIKE is lack of aftermarket and perfomrance parts.....
well theres really not much need for em - its a middle aged 2 person or small fam mover, not many people look to tune out a CRV . . altho it would be cool to see what u could make out of it
thats sports concept blue one, is just all wrong, IMO lol
Uncle Smitty
12-13-2006, 10:29 AM
Honda killed the CR-V's soul.
Now it's just a too small minivan.
soccer_sta_86
12-13-2006, 05:46 PM
silveraisk... 2 me.. i rather get a brand new V rather than to get a brand new x3..
sure theres a hell of a differnece between the 2, but honda will satisfy ur needs and you will have more money in ur pocket to do whtver.. with the x3, youd pay alot to maintain it and personally i dont like the x3.. i think its a worthless Suv except its an awd and the 230ish hp...
when i bought my V in march of 05, honda dealership had a used 02 ml benz with 68ks.. it was goin for 18gs , i paid 21gs cash nd ot my car @ the same day. so sometimes i really wonder if i did the right thing or not..
compare the ML to the V..
you d out of your mind if you picked the V, but the benz had 68ks... I drove 43Ks in a yr and hlf.. if i woud got the benz i would b topping 120ish ks.. YoU guys can say cars would top 120ks with no problem.. but i belive after 60ks ,everycar will start givving problems.. although i never kept a car till 60ks... so i dont know..
soccer_sta_86
12-13-2006, 05:55 PM
i only got the k&n short ram which they stoped manfacturing (dont know y) , then everything else is basicallly exterior and electronics.. i like the looks of my V but i wish it was like any other suv where i could swap taillights, bumpers..grilles..
1 more thing, i found a grille tht would fit an 05, its polished,and i want it in black, so cant i spray paint in... or would it get messsed up??
silverkasik
12-13-2006, 07:02 PM
silveraisk... 2 me.. i rather get a brand new V rather than to get a brand new x3..
sure theres a hell of a differnece between the 2, but honda will satisfy ur needs and you will have more money in ur pocket to do whtver.. with the x3, youd pay alot to maintain it and personally i dont like the x3.. i think its a worthless Suv except its an awd and the 230ish hp...
when i bought my V in march of 05, honda dealership had a used 02 ml benz with 68ks.. it was goin for 18gs , i paid 21gs cash nd ot my car @ the same day. so sometimes i really wonder if i did the right thing or not..
compare the ML to the V..
you d out of your mind if you picked the V, but the benz had 68ks... I drove 43Ks in a yr and hlf.. if i woud got the benz i would b topping 120ish ks.. YoU guys can say cars would top 120ks with no problem.. but i belive after 60ks ,everycar will start givving problems.. although i never kept a car till 60ks... so i dont know..
I wont be getting x3 , I am thinking of 3 maybe 5 series...
sleeksilver
12-13-2006, 10:53 PM
silveraisk... 2 me.. i rather get a brand new V rather than to get a brand new x3..
sure theres a hell of a differnece between the 2, but honda will satisfy ur needs and you will have more money in ur pocket to do whtver.. with the x3, youd pay alot to maintain it and personally i dont like the x3.. i think its a worthless Suv except its an awd and the 230ish hp...
when i bought my V in march of 05, honda dealership had a used 02 ml benz with 68ks.. it was goin for 18gs , i paid 21gs cash nd ot my car @ the same day. so sometimes i really wonder if i did the right thing or not..
compare the ML to the V..
you d out of your mind if you picked the V, but the benz had 68ks... I drove 43Ks in a yr and hlf.. if i woud got the benz i would b topping 120ish ks.. YoU guys can say cars would top 120ks with no problem.. but i belive after 60ks ,everycar will start givving problems.. although i never kept a car till 60ks... so i dont know..
I wont be getting x3 , I am thinking of 3 maybe 5 series...
Have fun with the maintainence....
Skrapiron
12-14-2006, 06:08 AM
Its a classic case of 'you can't please everyone'. Myself, I avoided the 1st and 2nd gen CRV's for a few specific reasons. I illucidated on those in an earlier post.
As for the 3rd gen CRV? I have read laments regarding the apparent handling and the relocation of the spare and cannot disagree more. I think it's the BEST small SUV that I have ever owned! It's interior is cavernous and it is sure footed and very pleasant to drive.
As for complaints or things I don't like about it? My wife has absconded it and left me to driver her Accord. I want my truck back!
colorider
12-14-2006, 06:40 AM
The only complaint I have so far is that it is not yet paid for (but I'm working on it)!! :D
How do you choose what to drive? If I had your fleet, I would be in 2 wheels most of the time :)
colorider
12-14-2006, 12:49 PM
How do you choose what to drive? If I had your fleet, I would be in 2 wheels most of the time :)
Who, me? Yes, I usually am on two wheels - as long as the weather cooperates. Matter of fact, we are having a real balmy day here today and I'm planning to go for a ride on the V-Strom!!
:D
greenteaCRV
12-14-2006, 05:58 PM
Who, me? Yes, I usually am on two wheels - as long as the weather cooperates. Matter of fact, we are having a real balmy day here today and I'm planning to go for a ride on the V-Strom!!
250 miles riding on the ST1300 today south of St Louis, Mo. in 65 degree weather....not bad for December 14.
Dennis
colorider
12-14-2006, 07:52 PM
250 miles riding on the ST1300 today south of St Louis, Mo. in 65 degree weather....not bad for December 14.
Dennis
You beat me - I only rode about a 100 today - but it was all in the mountains, so I'm guessing mine was ever bit as good!!! :)
lawrance
12-22-2006, 08:21 PM
It's all relative, isn't it. You are paying anywhere between 10k to 30k in price difference. 10k for bare minimum X3 and upwards of 30k for equivalent loaded X5. When you pay 20k (X3 with equivalent option to CRV) more for SUV, it should look better. It's all what you are willing to pay for a good SUV.
Btw, reliability of Honda is better than BMW.
Funny you guys should be bringing up BMW's on here as a comparison. I looking hard at trading in my Element and my top 2 choices are a 2007 CR-V, and a 2003 BMW X5. The X5 is 3-4K less expensive, but high miles, and no warranty. I test drove the X5 and was quite surprised how much I liked it! (I've never had a German vehicle.) The X5 is upscale to the hilt - which is why I'm looking to get rid of my E. Power everything, heated power leather seats and steering wheel with memory, heated navigation, power hatch, on and on... The problem is, The E is half paid for, Gets 21 mpg, is 100% reliable, and has major space for hauling my stuff. All of this would be downgraded with the X5, but only the price/space would be downgraded with the CR-V.
As far as ego goes, the X5 wins hands down. Pulling up in an X5 commands respect that won't come with a CR-V. Strange how that works, huh?
sleeksilver
12-22-2006, 08:42 PM
It's all relative, isn't it. You are paying anywhere between 10k to 30k in price difference. 10k for bare minimum X3 and upwards of 30k for equivalent loaded X5. When you pay 20k (X3 with equivalent option to CRV) more for SUV, it should look better. It's all what you are willing to pay for a good SUV.
Btw, reliability of Honda is better than BMW.
Funny you guys should be bringing up BMW's on here as a comparison. I looking hard at trading in my Element and my top 2 choices are a 2007 CR-V, and a 2003 BMW X5. The X5 is 3-4K less expensive, but high miles, and no warranty. I test drove the X5 and was quite surprised how much I liked it! (I've never had a German vehicle.) The X5 is upscale to the hilt - which is why I'm looking to get rid of my E. Power everything, heated power leather seats and steering wheel with memory, heated navigation, power hatch, on and on... The problem is, The E is half paid for, Gets 21 mpg, is 100% reliable, and has major space for hauling my stuff. All of this would be downgraded with the X5, but only the price/space would be downgraded with the CR-V.
As far as ego goes, the X5 wins hands down. Pulling up in an X5 commands respect that won't come with a CR-V. Strange how that works, huh?
What you will find really strange about your high mileage X5 is the fact that it will need a lot of money, and constant repairs to keep all those neat features working. :?
PS- Heated Navigation? What is the benefit of that? :lol: :lol: :lol:
lawrance
12-22-2006, 09:56 PM
Heated nav! A cut & paste error turned funny! The 03 X5 is more reliable than you might think. I was pretty surpised at all the reviews and reliablility ratings from Consumer Reports. - Still scary though.
After reading the forums for an hour or so tonight, I'm leaning on the CR-V due to the gas mileage difference, and zero repair costs.
soccer_sta_86
12-23-2006, 10:21 PM
y does the xterra comewith indemand 4wd for when you go offroadding... see i dont want a vechile where you aveto activate it.. thts why i LIKE MY V AND I UNDERSTAND ITS ONLY A RT4WD and i like tht it only works when its needed, but as a safey precausion id want a 4wd that is permant, sometihng like a pilot... i compared the xterra to the pilot, looks and reliabilty goes to honda, power, reviews, aftermarket accesories goes to the xterrra...
my questionfor xterra is would i have to activate the 4wd when its snowing or icy. or would it activate automatically and the 4wd in demand is for offraoding only...
Racoon
12-23-2006, 11:08 PM
my questionfor xterra is would i have to activate the 4wd when its snowing or icy. or would it activate automatically and the 4wd in demand is for offraoding only...
You would have to activate the Xterra 4WD manually. It is not an automatic system. The benefit over the Pilot is that the Xterra as a 4-LO setting.
:)
soccer_sta_86
12-23-2006, 11:51 PM
i wonder why they make tht much accesories and aftermarket performance fot the xterra but verry little for the pilot except for exterior wise..
i know the xterra has the air intake hose goes from the right side all around to the the buttom lower right side, making it easier to desgin an intake for it, but for the 06-07 pilots, its the same thing, the tubing has to be alittle shorteer tho... the oem intake hose is in the side, so i guess they would only make short rams for the pilot but they dont.... i know pilots are designed for older people but its the same thing fot the xterra, right? except for the offroadin which attracts the more younger crowd...
sleeksilver
12-24-2006, 11:19 AM
soccer, Pilot isn't geared for "Old People" It is geared for familes who want a reliable, safe vehicle to transport children. They generally don't want intakes, dual exhausts, turbo kits, 15 inch subs and stuff like that.
Xterra is geared to a younger crowd. That is why it has more aftermarket parts.
bobot
04-13-2007, 05:53 AM
how come no one complained about the super ugly door handle. i'm so itchy to buy the new one but that handle is just plain ugly. what in the world were the designers thinking?
alirose4
04-13-2007, 02:28 PM
how come no one complained about the super ugly door handle. i'm so itchy to buy the new one but that handle is just plain ugly. what in the world were the designers thinking?
Actully I did... maybe a month or so ago... :roll:
zbran4
04-28-2007, 08:28 AM
The only thing I don't like is the small arm rest. They sort of dig into my arms more so then they rest them. Other then that, I love it.
To the people talking about it's lack of power. I think that depends on what you are comparing it to. My car before this new CRV was a 98 Ford Explorer Sport. V6 166HP. The CRV is MUCH faster then my old explorer. Much faster off the line and better pick up and speed on the highway.
Its not a Corvette and it is not supposed to be. I have driven Porsche, Vets, M3's etc.. They are fund to drive but they are not the kind of car you want to drive around all day in stop and go traffic. The power goes to waste especially here in NJ where I am sitting in traffic all day.
The CRV is a perfect all around work/play vehicle.
silverkasik
05-03-2007, 06:15 PM
I dont like the round egg shape of new ones. inside is better than the old models.
talal
05-25-2007, 07:00 AM
I will never in my life buy an X3. Pointless SUV. I've driven a few when I did the Susan G. Komen breast cancer drive... Sure it handles well and goes nicely too, but it's wayyyy too small and too much money for what it is.
its bigger than the cr-v
Racoon
05-25-2007, 07:27 AM
its bigger than the cr-v
Not really...
2007 BMW X3
179.9" length
73" width
66" height
110.1" wheelbase
30.0 cu. ft. cargo volume
90.1 cu. ft. passenger volume
4012 to 4067 lbs curb weight (depending on equipment)
2007 Honda CR-V
177.9" length
71.6" width
66.1" height
103.1" wheelbase
35.7 cu. ft - cargo volume
100.9 cu. ft. - passenger volume (LX is 103.8 cu. ft.)
3389 to 3549 lbs curb weight (depending on equipment)
So it's 2" longer and 1.4" wider, but has less intertior space. And did you notice the X3 is 500+ lbs heavier?
CR-V EX-L Navigation is $28,595
X3 with leather and Navigation is $42,025
JM2C
As far as ego goes, the X5 wins hands down. Pulling up in an X5 commands respect that won't come with a CR-V.
Whatever floats your boat, but if you think everyone envys you when you drive a high end brand you're mistaken. Some will sneer rather than drool. While I admire German engineering and BMW's emphasis on handling, I have much more liking for Honda's affordability and reliability. And Honda also gives you nice handling vehicles, vs. Toyota's lean toward a cushier ride. And I get my handling fix with my dependable Japanese roadster.
4hondaowner
05-25-2007, 09:35 AM
Why would I want to buy a $45,000 V-6 or a $54,000 V-8 BMW? I didn't try to impress people when I was out of college and then had twin daughters. Not my in Midwestern upbringing. For those out there that have won the lottery or have come upon money, go right ahead. I've gotten over $200,000 over the years from the family estate and I still wouldn't buy one of those vehicles. Remember, I have a Honda H tattooed on my chest.
JMO
The only thing I don't like about our present CR-V is I wish it had 25 more horsepower from time to time. I would love to own a 2007 CR-V but at $29,000 for the one I saw several days ago, I don't think so. Let someone else eat the depreciation for several years. Early next year the sales manager's mother from Athens, Georgia will be turning in her 2004 silver CR-V LX. I have already told him I would like to buy it.
JMO
dreese9859
05-25-2007, 12:43 PM
Remember, I have a Honda H tattooed on my chest.
LOL ... That's the second time you've written that. Is it true?
4hondaowner
05-25-2007, 02:16 PM
LOL ... That's the second time you've written that. Is it true?
The truth will come out at the OBX to Florida Keys trip next month.
:rolleyes:
mdugan7000
05-25-2007, 04:24 PM
The truth will come out at the OBX to Florida Keys trip next month.
:rolleyes:
I don't want to look at it. :shock:
rsimon9228
05-27-2007, 09:17 AM
I just wish it came with manual transmission. I drove a manual for 40 years and now all I can do with my left foot is to tap out the 50's music playing on my XM radio! I guess there isn't much of a market for manual T in the US - but I always felt I had more control over the car. Probably in my head but it would be nice!
Ricki
I just wish it came with manual transmission. I drove a manual for 40 years and now all I can do with my left foot is to tap out the 50's music playing on my XM radio! I guess there isn't much of a market for manual T in the US - but I always felt I had more control over the car. Probably in my head but it would be nice!
Ricki
I read that V sales with manual had dropped to 3%. Honda limits options to keep costs down (only 3 interior colors, for example), so axing the manual shift is no surprise.
Racoon
05-27-2007, 02:08 PM
I don't want to look at it.
At least you'd only be seeing it in a picture, I'm going to have to see it up close and personal.
:shock:
cukoodukoo
06-21-2007, 05:45 PM
Just give us a stick and fix that speedo.Honda Fit has a better looking speedo than the CRV
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/cukoodukoo/large7.jpg
Curvluver
06-26-2007, 12:28 PM
I've had mine for only three months, three things I dont like, one-the garage door needs to be open to get the trunk open where as my 99 the glass would swing up and the rear gate would swing open enough to get things out...the new one will hit the garage door and you would have to sandwhich yourself between the car and the garage door to get underneath to grab anything.
The other two-no mute button on the stereo or pause button that I can find for the cd player. All are livable though, what a great car! I didnt realize how outdated my 99 was until I got into this thing, sheesh.
DBinCA
06-26-2007, 12:44 PM
To pause the CD player, just press any other mode button (e.g., FM, AM, Aux) or cycle to another mode with the steering wheel controls if you have them.
soccer_sta_86
06-26-2007, 01:26 PM
i paid 21500 for my 05 crv lx4wd nd i thought the salesguy didnt do as much aas he could negociating the price..
sleeksilver
06-26-2007, 04:40 PM
i paid 21500 for my 05 crv lx4wd nd i thought the salesguy didnt do as much aas he could negociating the price..
First off, it is up to YOU to negotiate the price. :roll:
2nd, why in the world are you posting this in this thread??? :confused:
keithharp
06-27-2007, 08:22 AM
Overall, I love the car. My few complaints:
1) I wish the window opened separately from the door (like the 06 and before). It would come in really handy for long Home Depot items and when I've got the bike rake installed with bikes on it.
2) My wife doesn't care for the headrest.
arowens54
06-28-2007, 08:34 AM
I read that V sales with manual had dropped to 3%. Honda limits options to keep costs down (only 3 interior colors, for example), so axing the manual shift is no surprise.
I, too, would love a manual without sacrificing the bells and whistles. There are SOME models - not Honda CRV - that offer manual but at the bottom of the trim list. I had a 1993 Maxima with leather, etc, and a five speed. Loved it. Maybe it's in my head, too, but I feel more in control and connected to the vehicle through the shift process.
arowens54
06-28-2007, 08:37 AM
Why would I want to buy a $45,000 V-6 or a $54,000 V-8 BMW? I didn't try to impress people when I was out of college and then had twin daughters. Not my in Midwestern upbringing. For those out there that have won the lottery or have come upon money, go right ahead. I've gotten over $200,000 over the years from the family estate and I still wouldn't buy one of those vehicles. Remember, I have a Honda H tattooed on my chest.
JMO
The only thing I don't like about our present CR-V is I wish it had 25 more horsepower from time to time. I would love to own a 2007 CR-V but at $29,000 for the one I saw several days ago, I don't think so. Let someone else eat the depreciation for several years. Early next year the sales manager's mother from Athens, Georgia will be turning in her 2004 silver CR-V LX. I have already told him I would like to buy it.
JMO
Totally a non-sequiter, but I'm originally from Athens, Georgia!! It's still my true home and my family is there. The Honda dealership there didn't want to deal on the 07s !
fairsailing
07-03-2007, 10:07 PM
In 30 yrs of owning cars, this is hands down the best car I've ever owned. With one exception (the first), all dislikes are very minor.
- Short seat bottoms create a thigh support issue, even the ability to tilt the seat bottom back would help. Almost a deal breaker for me, good dead peddle is the only saving grace. This is a chronic Honda issue which mystifies me.
- I like dual mpg calculator/miles remaining/trip odometers and the ability to control the the mix of information want to see. I don't like the fact that the controller for this info is on the gage face and hard to access.
- The XM radio is often unable to display play info.
- An extra couple of gallons of fuel capacity would be nice. Frequently on empty after less than 300 city miles.
- Not a big fan of the rear storage deck, which is is only spec'ed for 20 lbs and has to be removed to load the dogs. Would prefer the retractable security cover.
- I know this isn't a luxury car, but even my Subaru had automatic headlight cutoff sync'ed to the ignition switch. I don't think it is that expensive, at least there is a warning tone (cause I am always forgetting).
- Unlike many, I think this car has plenty of power, however you have to keep the revs at 4000+ to get to it, which means going into 2nd gear even at 50-60. This would be much more fun with Sequential SportShift (I know get the RDX for $7k more). But it would be a nice extra cost option that I would pay for.
F4Gary
07-06-2007, 12:41 PM
In 30 yrs of owning cars, this is hands down the best car I've ever owned. With one exception (the first), all dislikes are very minor.
- Short seat bottoms create a thigh support issue, even the ability to tilt the seat bottom back would help. Almost a deal breaker for me, good dead peddle is the only saving grace. This is a chronic Honda issue which mystifies me.
- I like dual mpg calculator/miles remaining/trip odometers and the ability to control the the mix of information want to see. I don't like the fact that the controller for this info is on the gage face and hard to access.
- The XM radio is often unable to display play info.
- An extra couple of gallons of fuel capacity would be nice. Frequently on empty after less than 300 city miles.
- Not a big fan of the rear storage deck, which is is only spec'ed for 20 lbs and has to be removed to load the dogs. Would prefer the retractable security cover.
- I know this isn't a luxury car, but even my Subaru had automatic headlight cutoff sync'ed to the ignition switch. I don't think it is that expensive, at least there is a warning tone (cause I am always forgetting).
- Unlike many, I think this car has plenty of power, however you have to keep the revs at 4000+ to get to it, which means going into 2nd gear even at 50-60. This would be much more fun with Sequential SportShift (I know get the RDX for $7k more). But it would be a nice extra cost option that I would pay for.
Fairsailing, we have the exact car you have, including the Hondacare from Bernardi. I agree with everything you mentioned. The knob for the trip odometer/instrument intensity is in a bad place.
Our biggest complaint is the seats. We just took a trip and found these seats are not long distance seats. They need more lumbar support and the seat bottoms are too hard. We may have boney butts, but my 97 Chevy Silverado and my wife's old 95 Exploder have much more comfortable seats, and we never got sore butts in them.
The Nav unit if fine, but our old Garmin Nuvi is a little better.
The Bridgestone H/T's are EXTREMELY noisy on any rough surfaced pavement.
Other than that, we really are happy with our new CRV.
Got 26-28 mpg and the car still has less than 2000 miles on it.
Whatever floats your boat, but if you think everyone envys you when you drive a high end brand you're mistaken. Some will sneer rather than drool. While I admire German engineering and BMW's emphasis on handling, I have much more liking for Honda's affordability and reliability. And Honda also gives you nice handling vehicles, vs. Toyota's lean toward a cushier ride. And I get my handling fix with my dependable Japanese roadster.
If you think a car, suv, boat, or airplane, will give you respect,or envy you have a small mind and also (never mind) People how are into trying to impress others, are the Hollywood types or transparent ones.
It is a automobile, not your wife,or kid. You can't eat it, and it will never be worth what you paid for it no matter what you hang on it. You can't make love to either. It is a tool, that's it; plain and simple, it will take you to work, store, out to dinner, or on vacation.
Oh of course one should take care it ones auto, maintenance, cleaning, you have to make this expensive tool last longer than most eye catching fastion trends.
I almost forgot the thing I don't like about my CRV is I only own one of them.
One other thing about lockable 4wd systems such as Rav4 's, & Pilots. The ones I have driven only stay locked till 25 mph, then auto disconnect. so do not really see the advantage. I you are going to say it's serious off roading the I say you buy a serious offroading Vehichle.
my 2 cts.
- I know this isn't a luxury car, but even my Subaru had automatic headlight cutoff sync'ed to the ignition switch. I don't think it is that expensive, at least there is a warning tone (cause I am always forgetting).
The other day I got to work and an X5 in the parking deck still had its lights on. I just assumed it was of those delayed shutoffs. I went back out a couple of hours later and the lights were still on. You'd think a $47-55,000 BMW would have that feature.
dbilski
08-06-2007, 02:33 PM
The ONLY thing that I don't like so far - mine is only DAYS old - is the way the rear seats fold. I load a lot of equipment in and out of mine (musical stuff for the band), and it's hard to load anything in through the side doors when the seats are folded. This car would be perfect (for ME) if the seats folded flat in a more traditional way.
Anyone know an engineering reason why they don't fold that way?
Doug
Richmond, VA
The ONLY thing that I don't like so far - mine is only DAYS old - is the way the rear seats fold. I load a lot of equipment in and out of mine (musical stuff for the band), and it's hard to load anything in through the side doors when the seats are folded. This car would be perfect (for ME) if the seats folded flat in a more traditional way.
Anyone know an engineering reason why they don't fold that way?
Doug
Richmond, VA
There's not enough room? I can't imagine any other reason.
tangoredpearl
08-08-2007, 04:58 PM
A few things I don't like: the fake XM antenna on my EX. Which my dealer (incorrectly) told me I had a 3-months' trial subscription to.
The lock switch...I'm SO used to Honda's having an up/down switch for the door locks, the forward/backward motion took a few days to get used to.
The "ambient" lighting...honestly, alls I see is a blue circle on the ceiling, and it barely reflects on the shifter plate...even at night.
Wow. Those are some serious complaints. Are you gonna sell it or just trade it in? Just kidding. ;) I can't find much to complain about either. And I don't think you have a fake XM antenna. The EX-L has the spiral antenna. I'm guessing that's a functional antenna, just not XM. I can't imagine that Honda would put it there if it didn't serve a function.
CarlosT
08-14-2007, 12:24 PM
WOW! Where to start... :D
OK...the big stuff
1- Power is pathetic compared to my hot rod '05 Pilot...Honda really needs to open its eyes to the competition because (see next item)...
2- Mileage sucks anyway...almost as bad as my Pilot with a V6
3- Dash layout sucks...never saw so many useless cubbies...so much wasted space with the shifter. A lotta people say that column shifters are old school but man...Honda coulda really put in a nice proper center storage console like in my Pilot.
4- Already mentioned but for my EX money, I wanted climate control...makes a big difference on long trips
5- Front end styling is hideous...there's just GOTTA be something better to do with that front.
OK...the littler stuff
1- Rear windows need to go down all the way
2- The oil filter location sucks...
3- The stock mats are a joke...not even rubber backed
4- My front seat fabric is alreay pilling and chafing after 4 months
5- The headlights really need to automatically go out like on my Pilot...how big of a deal was it to add this feature...?
6- HID headlights...they're starting to stick these in cheap Korean crap cars...when is it coming to a Honda near you? Must we continue to protect the Acura snobs by keeping the Hondas cheap looking? No...please...I don't wanna hear about price point and costs...
7- Honda seats just haven't been fitting my fat a@# as good as they used to...my 2002 Accord had the absolutely best seats ever...my 2005 Pilot seats are atrocious...this CR-V is somewhere in between.
8- The console between the seats is kinda a joke...ZERO real storage space.
9- The trailer wiring connector is just stoopid to get to...Honda continues to protect its turf by forcing folks to buy their accessories and installation services...
10- Headrests are kinda useless...why can't Honda just copy Volvo?
sleeksilver
08-14-2007, 12:37 PM
WOW! Where to start...
OK...the big stuff
1- Power is pathetic compared to my hot rod '05 Pilot...Honda really needs to open its eyes to the competition because (see next item)...
2- Mileage sucks anyway...almost as bad as my Pilot with a V6
3- Dash layout sucks...never saw so many useless cubbies...so much wasted space with the shifter. A lotta people say that column shifters are old school but man...Honda coulda really put in a nice proper center storage console like in my Pilot.
4- Already mentioned but for my EX money, I wanted climate control...makes a big difference on long trips
5- Front end styling is hideous...there's just GOTTA be something better to do with that front.
OK...the littler stuff
1- Rear windows need to go down all the way
2- The oil filter location sucks...
3- The stock mats are a joke...not even rubber backed
4- My front seat fabric is alreay pilling and chafing after 4 months
5- The headlights really need to automatically go out like on my Pilot...how big of a deal was it to add this feature...?
6- HID headlights...they're starting to stick these in cheap Korean crap cars...when is it coming to a Honda near you? Must we continue to protect the Acura snobs by keeping the Hondas cheap looking? No...please...I don't wanna hear about price point and costs...
7- Honda seats just haven't been fitting my fat a@# as good as they used to...my 2002 Accord had the absolutely best seats ever...my 2005 Pilot seats are atrocious...this CR-V is somewhere in between.
8- The console between the seats is kinda a joke...ZERO real storage space.
9- The trailer wiring connector is just stoopid to get to...Honda continues to protect its turf by forcing folks to buy their accessories and installation services...
10- Headrests are kinda useless...why can't Honda just copy Volvo?
Why did you even buy the vehicle?!?!?
Big Stuff:
1. The competition? The RAV offers a 4 cylinder with same performance, the V6 Grand Vitara isn't much faster, the Escape/Mariner/Tribute are just as quick and they have a V6, the base Santa Fe is even slower than the CR-V and it has a V6, the Nissan Rouge will offer basically the same performance as well.
I think Honda is doing quite well.
2. Your mileage is low probably because your engine isn't fully broken in.
5. The styling is functional for pedestrian crash safety.
Small Stuff:
4. You are the first to complain about this and we have 100's of G3 owners on this site.
6. This is ridiculous. The Outlander is the only other small SUV that offers HIDs (to my knowledge) in the CR-Vs category. Price IS an issue. What Korean car offers HID in the US? None. That's right, NONE.
8. It is so passengers can get to the rear seat like in previous generations, it was designed to be convenient.
CarlosT
08-14-2007, 12:50 PM
Boy you really been abusing your Honda koolaide... :D
sleeksilver
08-14-2007, 12:59 PM
Boy you really been abusing your Honda koolaide... :D
:lol:
No, I just don't understand why you bought the car if you have so many complaints....
arowens54
08-14-2007, 01:07 PM
I don't agree with Sleeksilver often, but on this I'm 100%. So much of what CarlosT complains about is very apparent from the get-go. Did he even drive the car?? I can't speak for the cloth seats, but the leather is very luxurious. I'm bitching and moaning about the power seat thing (I've only had my EX-L since Aug. 1) BUT even without the power seat, it's still a good sitting experience. The vehicle over all is SWEET SWEET. Love how quiet it is, love the pickup, LOVE the gears where they are. The Pilot's center console looks like an office inbox! I'm getting 21.5 mpg in town; got 26.7 on the highway in varied driving terrain. I'm finding it hard to complain about ANYTHING on this little SUV (with the exception of the aforementioned power seats!)
sleeksilver
08-14-2007, 01:09 PM
I don't agree with Sleeksilver often, but on this I'm 100%.
You don't agree with me often? :confused:
Well that's sad :cry:
CarlosT
08-14-2007, 01:21 PM
Why did you even buy the vehicle?!?!?
I LUV Honda Finance and detest Toyota pricing...been buying Hondas for over 20 years...seen 'em "grow up" you know? :D
The competition? The RAV offers a 4 cylinder with same performance, the V6 Grand Vitara isn't much faster, the Escape/Mariner/Tribute are just as quick and they have a V6, the base Santa Fe is even slower than the CR-V and it has a V6, the Nissan Rouge will offer basically the same performance as well.
OK...you're not keeping up...the XL7 "looks" faster. The RAV now has a V6 option. The Veracruz has a 3.8L motah. WTF is a Nissan Rouge? This car is slow...you wanna convince me otherwise? I think I know better :D
I think Honda is doing quite well.
Yes...not forever...nothing is guaranteed in this business. You need to continue to earn your customers...return customers especially.
Your mileage is low probably because your engine isn't fully broken in.
No...my mileage is low because this little engine is giving all it's got and I keep mashing the pedal to make it go :D
The styling is functional for pedestrian crash safety.
WOW! What a lame-o excuse...you mean everybody else like Mercedes managed to do this pedestrian safety thing without making their cars look like a botched nose job.
You are the first to complain about this and we have 100's of G3 owners on this site.
It's a new car...give it time. I wanna hear from 100s of owners when they got 50,000 miles and 5 years on their G3s. This is my first Honda to do this...
This is ridiculous. The Outlander is the only other small SUV that offers HIDs (to my knowledge) in the CR-Vs category. Price IS an issue. What Korean car offers HID in the US? None. That's right, NONE.
I give Hyundai about a year before HID appears on it Sonata or Azera or whatever. Of course, VW already has Xenon headlights in the Passat wagon which is priced one tier above the CR-V...just a matter of time before the lowly Jetta gets HID.
It is so passengers can get to the rear seat like in previous generations, it was designed to be convenient.
I want my kids to stay put in the back seat. As it is I got crap all over this tray (let's not even call it a console) so no flipping up and down. I actually dread the day one of my dumb kids steps on this tray and breaks it.
Let's face it...I think that you just drink too much Honda koolaide :D
CarlosT
08-14-2007, 01:25 PM
I...BUT even without the power seat, it's still a good sitting experience...
Gee...I forgot to complain about that...yeah...an EX...any Honda EX...should have power seats...maybe it was cool back in '99 but not now with the Koreans stuffing som much content into even their little cars...
"10- Headrests are kinda useless...why can't Honda just copy Volvo?"
Headrests are not for resting your head while driving the car. They are a safety feature in case of an accident (or even near accident).
"with the Koreans stuffing som much content into even their little cars..."
Like I said in the other thread- How else can they compete with the top Japanese manufacturers?
Do you really expect to get much agreement here with all your complaints? This IS a Honda forum, in case you hadn't noticed. Or do you just enjoy arguing? :roll:
sleeksilver
08-14-2007, 01:43 PM
Why did you even buy the vehicle?!?!?
I LUV Honda Finance and detest Toyota pricing...been buying Hondas for over 20 years...seen 'em "grow up" you know? :D
The competition? The RAV offers a 4 cylinder with same performance, the V6 Grand Vitara isn't much faster, the Escape/Mariner/Tribute are just as quick and they have a V6, the base Santa Fe is even slower than the CR-V and it has a V6, the Nissan Rouge will offer basically the same performance as well.
OK...you're not keeping up...the XL7 "looks" faster. The RAV now has a V6 option. The Veracruz has a 3.8L motah. WTF is a Nissan Rouge? This car is slow...you wanna convince me otherwise? I think I know better :D
I think Honda is doing quite well.
Yes...not forever...nothing is guaranteed in this business. You need to continue to earn your customers...return customers especially.
Your mileage is low probably because your engine isn't fully broken in.
No...my mileage is low because this little engine is giving all it's got and I keep mashing the pedal to make it go :D
The styling is functional for pedestrian crash safety.
WOW! What a lame-o excuse...you mean everybody else like Mercedes managed to do this pedestrian safety thing without making their cars look like a botched nose job.
You are the first to complain about this and we have 100's of G3 owners on this site.
It's a new car...give it time. I wanna hear from 100s of owners when they got 50,000 miles and 5 years on their G3s. This is my first Honda to do this...
This is ridiculous. The Outlander is the only other small SUV that offers HIDs (to my knowledge) in the CR-Vs category. Price IS an issue. What Korean car offers HID in the US? None. That's right, NONE.
I give Hyundai about a year before HID appears on it Sonata or Azera or whatever. Of course, VW already has Xenon headlights in the Passat wagon which is priced one tier above the CR-V...just a matter of time before the lowly Jetta gets HID.
It is so passengers can get to the rear seat like in previous generations, it was designed to be convenient.
I want my kids to stay put in the back seat. As it is I got crap all over this tray (let's not even call it a console) so no flipping up and down. I actually dread the day one of my dumb kids steps on this tray and breaks it.
Let's face it...I think that you just drink too much Honda koolaide :D
Almost everything that you posted was completely erroneous.
1. The XL-7 and Veracruz ARE NOT in the CR-Vs segment, at all. The Rouge will be competition for the CR-V. I will not try and convince you that the CR-V is not slow, it is. But you need to remember that it is on par with the competition and in some cases it is even better.
2. Well the CR-V is currently the best selling small SUV in America, over all the competition.
3. Well that isn’t the CR-Vs fault, your mileage would suffer in any vehicle if you drive like that.
4. As far as SUVs go, the CR-V outperforms all of Mercedes’ SUVs in pedestrian safety.
5. There are some members on here with 20K+. What do you currently have?
6. Hyundai’s Azera is their luxury vehicle, currently Honda has nothing in its line-up designed to directly compete with it. The Passat is a typical overpriced VW product. Previously you were complaining about the price of an EX-L Navi? They have Passats now running into the mid 30’s (maybe even higher), this is for a Passat and not an Audi. That is a lot more expensive than any CR-V model. The lowly Jetta already has HIDs as an option on some model variations, but they are also 20K+ which is very expensive for such a small vehicle.
7. I have had my friends step on it and it hasn’t broken, I doubt one of your kids will break it.
clinton70
08-15-2007, 02:54 PM
The only thing so far is the lack of power for the stereo. Not as good as the 06 Civic and 06 Mazda 6. But at least, unlike the Mazda, it reads mp3s and has built in XM so no complaint.
When money comes, I'm putting a mini-subwoofer in.
CarlosT
08-18-2007, 10:45 AM
...Do you really expect to get much agreement here with all your complaints? This IS a Honda forum, in case you hadn't noticed. Or do you just enjoy arguing? :roll:
That was the funniest and most unbiased post I've seen around here...thanks! :D
Yes...I've been reflecting on my blitzkrieg assault on this hallowed Honda koolaide place the other day...it was a logical response from y'all...sorry :D
I do love my little Honda actually believe it or not...I'm just very critical. I wouldn't drive a korean car unless someone gave it to me. The new CR-V is very cool.
I do love my little Honda actually believe it or not...I'm just very critical. I wouldn't drive a korean car unless someone gave it to me. The new CR-V is very cool.
Wow. Love it huh? Hard to tell from your posts. Giving us some practice on the 'Honda defense'? :lol: Although there are some things I'd like to see added/improved, I'm trying to enjoy all the positive aspects and improvements over our previous family hauler.
The Godfather
08-20-2007, 09:45 AM
I really have no complaints; and, since this is my first Honda, do not consider myself drunk on Honda Kool Aid.....;)
Seriously, though, right off the bat the new CR-V made a great impression on me, and has not let me down since. Great ride, great build, great mileage. I am very pleased.
Michael.
VC Slim
08-21-2007, 07:29 AM
One minor complaint is the inability to turn off the beeping sound emitted from the radio and navi. The beeping occurs when selecting a radio presets or any and all movement of the navi joystick.
If someone knows how to turn this off please let me know.
Jonavin
08-23-2007, 12:02 PM
Just give us a stick and fix that speedo.Honda Fit has a better looking speedo than the CRV
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/cukoodukoo/large7.jpg
My Fit Sport also has a better stereo than all trims except the Navi model. Looks like they've somewhat address the problem by giving the same stereo to the EX-L on the 08 models.
BarryT82
11-21-2007, 06:19 PM
I've checked out a few different trim levels in the CR-V and I have to say that the Navi in the CR-V is one of the worst I've seen. The screen is dark, the graphics suck, and everything is hard to find. The best navi I've ever had in a vehicle was in my last Audi A4. I've had a few different hand held models and built-in models, but the Audi OEM navi is the best I've ever seen. The graphics are great, everything is easy to find, it has more add-ons available, and the voice doesn't sound like a computer talking to you.
sleeksilver
11-21-2007, 06:23 PM
I've checked out a few different trim levels in the CR-V and I have to say that the Navi in the CR-V is one of the worst I've seen. The screen is dark, the graphics suck, and everything is hard to find. The best navi I've ever had in a vehicle was in my last Audi A4. I've had a few different hand held models and built-in models, but the Audi OEM navi is the best I've ever seen. The graphics are great, everything is easy to find, it has more add-ons available, and the voice doesn't sound like a computer talking to you.
That's weird. Honda/Acura Nav systems have received universal praise from all automotive journalists while Audis system isn't.
lccurtis
11-21-2007, 06:23 PM
You know you are the first person that I have heard complain about the Nav system in the V. Even Brian Cooledge of CNET said its one of the best systems to operate and visually. Maybe you shoud have gotten the dealership guy to adjust it correctly because it is one of the brightest Nave around if you know how to change the contrast:lol:
alex2364
11-21-2007, 07:25 PM
The Honda/Acura navigation system is one of the easiest to use of all the manufacturers. It was dark probably because the brightness was turned all the way down. You adjust the setting.
BarryT82
11-21-2007, 09:17 PM
Ah, it could have been, but the graphics still suck compared to those in Audi's. Too bad Audi's have so many problems. I had that car at the dealership more than I had it at home I think. The worst was when the sunroof was opening on it's own in the winter while the car was off and snow was getting in the car while I was at work.
sleeksilver
11-22-2007, 08:56 AM
I'm not trying to be rude, but who cares about graphics? As long as the interface is easy to use, and it gets you where you want to go better than the rest....
PINODY
11-22-2007, 01:05 PM
What simple tweaks can be done to increase HP to 190 like the '08 accord EX? :-o That would be perfect! http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-sedan/price.aspx?Model=CP2578JW (http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-sedan/price.aspx?Model=CP2578JW)
Racoon
11-22-2007, 01:46 PM
What simple tweaks can be done to increase HP to 190 like the '08 accord EX? :-o That would be perfect! http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-sedan/price.aspx?Model=CP2578JW (http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-sedan/price.aspx?Model=CP2578JW)
Sell your CR-V and buy an Accord.
JM2C
PINODY
11-22-2007, 02:33 PM
Sell your CR-V and buy an Accord.
JM2CYou don't understand, sadly I choose to come out of an FX and look for something more practical, but still wan't a little fun. 8) 4-cyl, 20+ mpg CRV and Rogue both have caught my attention, so I'm continuing to do some pre-buying homework. ... wait till I ask about Lowering springs! :lol: Look where CRV got its' window inspiration from > http://opencity.us/browse.php?u=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5pbmZpbml0aWZ4Lm9yZy9wa HBCQjIvZmlsZXMvMzJfMTY4LmpwZw%3D%3D&b=31
Racoon
11-22-2007, 03:06 PM
There are no simple or cheap things you can do to the CR-V engine to increase HP that much. If you absolutely need more power than the CR-V is the wrong vehicle for you.
JM2C
PINODY
11-22-2007, 03:59 PM
There are no simple or cheap things you can do to the CR-V engine to increase HP that much. If you absolutely need more power than the CR-V is the wrong vehicle for you.
JM2CMan, that's odd, you give up too easily - even the base model Accord LX produces 177 Horsies - I'm sure that must be at least doable - or are you suggesting I choose the Rogue instead?! ... http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-sedan/price.aspx?Model=CP2538EW
Dbower
11-22-2007, 04:00 PM
Unlike some of the posts here, this is not a rant - just some things I would like to see changed. Model is a CRV EX-L 2WD with Nav, primarily the wife's car but I drive it on occasion. In no particular order:
1: Front seats: a little more side bolstering and a little longer bottom cushion would be nice for us taller drivers. Along those lines, the steering wheel is a bit far away (even adjusted rearward) with the seats in the optimum location for pedal reach.
2: Bluetooth for hands free cell phone use would be nice.
3: Trip functions should not be in lieu of odometer. There's plenty of room in the cluster for both at the same time.
4: Water temp gauge seems excessively damped. Even if idling long enough for the fan to come on, the coolant display is stuck in the same place. Idiot gauges are Ford's trademark, not Honda.
5: An oil pressure gauge would be very nice (but not an idiot variety - it's ok for the gauge to show pressure changes with RPM!).
6: The maintenance minder is a bit neurotic. Unless the car is driven until the oil life reads 15%, no other items are displayed. Lacking any other guide in the manual - if one changes the oil a bit early (and resets the minder), there's no way to know when to rotate tires, change air cleaner, etc. I'm just going to forgo reseting when I change the oil until it hits 15% so I can find out what other work is needed.
7: Tires. Honda can do better for OEM tires. The Bridgestones follow every rut in the road, making driving on grooved freeway lanes a bit scary at first.
8: Brakes. A bit too sensitive and difficult to modulate. Smooth stops, especially at the end of the stop when one would release brake pressure a bit, are difficult.
9: A little more power would be nice, especially at the high end. Not quite enough to make high speed passes fully comfortable. Off the line power is adequate - better than I expected given the HP and weight.
No issues with the NAV or any of the controls. All seem to work very well. Oil consumption appears to be very low - *maybe* a tiny tick lower on the dipstick from new.
These are really minor nits. No car is perfect for everyone, but this one is very nice for our needs. Best parts: 2 1/2 months and 2300 miles later, not a single warranty issue and......it's a Honda.
-Dave
lccurtis
11-22-2007, 05:28 PM
You know horse power is good if you actually need it. Most of you guys live in the suburbs and do not often merge on the highway to even get into traffic to need hp, and I know the speed limit is not over 45 in most of the prescious suburban neighborhood. You know what type of power the car has before you purchased it if the hp is not what you wanted when you test drove the vehicle you should not have purchased it. So in other words you know what you purchased so stop bith'n about it. If you want hp by a vette or something CR-V's are not built for speed it's for those who want a safe realiable classy vehicle.
2: Bluetooth for hands free cell phone use would be nice.
the european models have bluetooth, i guess it would work in the US model too:
http://www.honda-access.com/ba/en/news/Bluetooth.jsp
stocklook
11-24-2007, 10:12 AM
IMO, This is all Spoiled brat mentality, I was a victim of this at first, this is my first Honda and I paid the same for my 04 Silverado as the 06 CRV, 21k, the comparison it much like night and day the Chevy won hands down in luxury and bells and whistles. The fact is that people are comparing the CRV to other vehicles of a higher luxury tier, Yes I do have some complaints of my 06 like the lack of the luxury items that other vehicles have for the same price, it all come down to how long it will last before you have to put your own money in it, and the safety features out way the luxury item we are accustom to, this is why some of us have done mods to our V’s,
Sorry mine is an 06 but for me, my biggest complaint is the free 90 day XM trial that would have cost ME $400.00 and the center tray,
DUDLEY07726
11-25-2007, 07:14 AM
I'd rather have the shifter on the floor than on the dash (even though I like it better where it is on my 07 than in the earlier models). I don't like how the rear sits fold and you have to hook them. My 03 Rav4 rear seats locked by themselves when folded and were also able to be removed. I would like a higher center console instead of an armrest (even though I am getting used to it now). I have squeak in my center console (I have a Nav) where the Cd changer is.
The Godfather
11-27-2007, 08:53 AM
I like would like it if the US CRV had blinkers installed in the side mirrors as our European counterparts have.
Otherwise, it works fine for me.
Mike.
sleeksilver
11-27-2007, 09:10 AM
I have squeak in my center console (I have a Nav) where the Cd changer is.
Take it in....
PINODY
11-27-2007, 03:20 PM
I like would like it if the US CRV had blinkers installed in the side mirrors as our European counterparts have.I'm sure many members here would like this too. ~ Can't we get these imported for us either by a Group-Buy or through someone like HandA? :idea:
clarkccc3
11-27-2007, 11:16 PM
I'm sure many members here would like this too. ~ Can't we get these imported for us either by a Group-Buy or through someone like HandA? :idea:
I'm actually kinda glad we don't have them. That's just more money we'd have to pay for a feature that's more luxury here in the US than a safety necessity.
fmors
01-09-2008, 10:19 AM
Things I don't like about my CR-V:
1. Air conditioner makes whining noise.
2. Bridgestone tires are awful.
3. Stereo has flat sound.
4. Head lights are not bright enough.
5. Arm rests are uncomfortable.
These are not big issues, with the exception of the A/C, which the dealer has not been able to duplicate. All in all I am very happy with my CR-V.
SupeAkuma
01-14-2008, 12:44 AM
Things I don't like about my CR-V:
1. Air conditioner makes whining noise.
2. Bridgestone tires are awful.
3. Stereo has flat sound.
4. Head lights are not bright enough.
5. Arm rests are uncomfortable.
These are not big issues, with the exception of the A/C, which the dealer has not been able to duplicate. All in all I am very happy with my CR-V.
1-I don't have that problem
2-I don't have that tires but I really hate the contis that came with my 08
3-You can't expect much from stock
4-Sylvania SilverStar
http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/HighPerformance/Silverstar/
5-I agree!
There's not enough room? I can't imagine any other reason.
The one thing I do like about the Rav 4 the rear seats fold down flat.
KBL
4hondaowner
01-19-2008, 09:57 AM
The one thing I don't like about our CR-V is that I never get to drive it.
:oops:
Almost everything that you posted was completely erroneous.
1. The XL-7 and Veracruz ARE NOT in the CR-Vs segment, at all. The Rouge will be competition for the CR-V. I will not try and convince you that the CR-V is not slow, it is. But you need to remember that it is on par with the competition and in some cases it is even better.
2. Well the CR-V is currently the best selling small SUV in America, over all the competition.
3. Well that isn’t the CR-Vs fault, your mileage would suffer in any vehicle if you drive like that.
4. As far as SUVs go, the CR-V outperforms all of Mercedes’ SUVs in pedestrian safety.
5. There are some members on here with 20K+. What do you currently have?
6. Hyundai’s Azera is their luxury vehicle, currently Honda has nothing in its line-up designed to directly compete with it. The Passat is a typical overpriced VW product. Previously you were complaining about the price of an EX-L Navi? They have Passats now running into the mid 30’s (maybe even higher), this is for a Passat and not an Audi. That is a lot more expensive than any CR-V model. The lowly Jetta already has HIDs as an option on some model variations, but they are also 20K+ which is very expensive for such a small vehicle.
7. I have had my friends step on it and it hasn’t broken, I doubt one of your kids will break it.
Children;
Stop whinning I know this a Honda site, but Hondas are not perfect. They are not sports cars and in heavy city traffic could use a little afterburner sometimes. The nose of this suv is ugly, thank god I'm inside looking out and do not have to see often. I miss the auto light shutoff the most. I see no reason for HID headlights except to piss off the rest of the world who has to look at them coming at them in the early morning darkness.
All other complaints of this auto are personal to ones self, not intended to be everyones view. So let the people vent, if Honda really did read this forum they may even change a few things, and by god make some of you happy.
I feel better now.
KBL
I see no reason for HID headlights excecpt to piss off the rest of the world who has to look at them coming at them in the early morning darkness.
everyone considering a taiwanese HID kit install in a halogen filament - see what people think about HIDs in general now.
Man, that's odd, you give up too easily - even the base model Accord LX produces 177 Horsies - I'm sure that must be at least doable - or are you suggesting I choose the Rogue instead?! ... http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-sedan/price.aspx?Model=CP2538EW
I think I need to backup the masked bandit here; first off I'll say I missed signing uo for MIT but I think I can handle this one.
If you go and look at Toyota or Nissan, And Honda, and compare like similar engines installed in a car body verse a truck body you will see that the car body always has more horse power, and better MPG. Did you notice that about the Accord?, trucks are geared different for different uses, and not as smooth in the aero department. So you could most probably get more horse pwr out of the CR-V engine, but would have regear it and a few other things. And really, I mean really can you really feel 20 more horse power? Come on 50 or 100 yes but 20 give me a break.
So Spend money on some of those worthless HP mods like a K&N air charger filter or larger throttle body spacer. If those things really worked Honda would have a CR-V sport model with them installed.
I'm done.
KBL
4hondaowner
01-19-2008, 10:44 AM
Children;
Stop whinning I know this a Honda site, but Hondas are not perfect. They are not sports cars and in heavy city traffic could use a little afterburner sometimes. The nose of this suv is ugly, thank god I'm inside looking out and do not have to see often. I miss the auto light shutoff the most. I see no reason for HID headlights except to piss off the rest of the world who has to look at them coming at them in the early morning darkness.
All other complaints of this auto are personal to ones self, not intended to be everyones view. So let the people vent, if Honda really did read this forum they may even change a few things, and by god make some of you happy.
I feel better now.
KBL
From one Kevin to another, good job in writing your thoughts.
When I read your comments, I expected them from a long standing poster on this site but you stuck your neck out and said what you had on your mind. Good for you.
Trust me, I'm sure some at Honda see this site as well as many others. We are a test group they don't have to pay $50 to each participant and have in a room for two hours to voice our opinions.
:roll:
From one Kevin to another, good job in writing your thoughts.
When I read your comments, I expected them from a long standing poster on this site but you stuck your neck out and said what you had on your mind. Good for you.
Trust me, I'm sure some at Honda see this site as well as many others. We are a test group they don't have to pay $50 to each participant and have in a room for two hours to voice our opinions.
:roll:
Kevin,
Thank you for your response, I'm on a Toyota site also and they have similar rants on that site also.
My wife has a 03 EX, and (she is a full blooded Korean by the way) and loves this car you can't peel her out of it except when it needs gas and it's cold out or needs a wash. Which is the only time I drive it, I love my rice burners, even with there short comings they are the best bag for the buck. I work in avaition and if the aircraft I work with were this reliable I would be out of a job.
Really didn't most of buy this for a commuter car? work,shopping, etc. ? Well I think it does well, could use a few improvements, but its coming along, I understand the 08 has pwr drivers seat, I do not know about the auto off lights,( can only hope) I personally am waiting for the diesel engine to hit the US, and I will trade in my Tundra for one of those in a New York minute.
I support this site because it has some good discussion on it and information, keep up the good work, but stop day dreaming.
Kevin#2
4hondaowner
01-19-2008, 11:56 AM
I support this site because it has some good discussion on it and information, keep up the good work, but stop day dreaming.
Kevin#2
WOW - another gold star reply by Kevin #2. We will always keep up the good work, always post information that will benefit all three generations of CR-V's and other Honda's in this site.
Not sure about the day dreaming. I guess some are guilty of that. We are not all perfect.
I'm dreaming of going home for I'm at work and it is snowing again in Atlanta! What is up with that! I just picked up my car from repair & paint ship and the entire car is covered in the wet white stuff.
I'm dreaming of a white Christmas. Oops, that was last month.
:shock:
WOW - another gold star reply by Kevin #2. We will always keep up the good work, always post information that will benefit all three generations of CR-V's and other Honda's in this site.
Not sure about the day dreaming. I guess some are guilty of that. We are not all perfect.
I'm dreaming of going home for I'm at work and it is snowing again in Atlanta! What is up with that! I just picked up my car from repair & paint ship and the entire car is covered in the wet white stuff.
I'm dreaming of a white Christmas. Oops, that was last month.
:shock:
I'm also at work only two more hours to go, then this shift is done till I start all over again on Wednesday.
Kevin#2
mdugan7000
01-19-2008, 03:01 PM
.....And really, I mean really can you really feel 20 more horse power? Come on 50 or 100 yes but 20 give me a break......
KBLI guess you have never driven, back-to-back, a 97 or 98 CR-V vs. a 99 to 2001 CR-V? If you had, you would proclaim that you have seen the light of 20 HP and bow down to the horsepower gods in amazement. Same gearing, just 20 more HP.
Real men don't buy 97/98 V's. They buy 99-2001's instead. :lol:
sgtsandman
01-19-2008, 04:32 PM
Oh, there goes the bee's nest now. Nice job there mdugan! :shock:
sleeksilver
01-19-2008, 06:02 PM
I guess you have never driven, back-to-back, a 97 or 98 CR-V vs. a 99 to 2001 CR-V? If you had, you would proclaim that you have seen the light of 20 HP and bow down to the horsepower gods in amazement. Same gearing, just 20 more HP.
x2.
I can certainly feel 20hp :?
4hondaowner
01-19-2008, 06:16 PM
x2.
I can certainly feel 20hp :?
I wish I could feel 20 more hp under my butt with the same fuel economy.
:|
vhercules
01-19-2008, 08:32 PM
I wish I could feel 20 more hp under my butt with the same fuel economy.
:|
That is what the gen 3 provides :lol:
most of the people buying K&N and e-rams swear that they feel the 3-4 hp they gained, supposedly, not to mention low rpm torque gained.
:rolleyes:
4hondaowner
01-20-2008, 05:06 AM
That is what the gen 3 provides :lol:
So true but the generation 3 doesn't do it for me and I'm not in the mood to have another big vehicle payment as we slide into a recession.
:shock:
vhercules
01-20-2008, 09:19 AM
So true but the generation 3 doesn't do it for me and I'm not in the mood to have another big vehicle payment as we slide into a recession.
:shock:
Well from your signature I notice that your V has only around 81K miles on it so you are going to be stuck with it for a loooooong time unless you voluntarily want to get rid of it ;), which I doubt you will
4hondaowner
01-20-2008, 12:46 PM
Well from your signature I notice that your V has only around 81K miles on it so you are going to be stuck with it for a loooooong time unless you voluntarily want to get rid of it ;), which I doubt you will
2000 CR-V will not leave the family fleet until daughter who is in Minnesota comes home. She has special resizing gizmo on her computer upstairs. So I'm stuck with my signature pictures and the CR-V until we see her again. Plus, wife loves her little toy and I'm not going there. My Legend may be sold to buy second CR-V or a Fit. It is back from being repaired from a runaway fork-lift at work. It also has a brand new paint job. I have several people that want to buy it but am not inclined right now to hand over the keys to them.
:roll:
buggie
03-11-2008, 07:03 PM
What I don't like are:
1. Wind noise
2. Tire noise
3. Front arm rest needs to be larger
Other than these items, I love the little pony. It drives well for a tall wagon and it has enough power, and it gives good gas mileage. I am searching the site for noise reduction methods...help?
1ownerT
03-12-2008, 03:38 AM
1. Turn up the radio
2. Change tires
3. Keep both hands on the wheel and you won't need the arm rest.
:mrgreen:
F1_CR-V
04-12-2008, 06:13 PM
i'm actually pretty impressed and happy with ours. just hate the fact that it needs new wheels because the LX wheels are just way too fugly :rolleyes:
4hondaowner
04-12-2008, 06:40 PM
i'm actually pretty impressed and happy with ours. just hate the fact that it needs new wheels because the LX wheels are just way too fugly :rolleyes:
Buy a set of nice alloys. I did.
:roll:
F1_CR-V
04-12-2008, 06:42 PM
Buy a set of nice alloys. I did.
:roll:
i've already got it all figured out 8)
Nor_Cal_Dale
05-01-2008, 11:31 PM
I dare you to find a better built more reliable vehicle for the money.
My Only gripes are that Honda cannot make them more quiet. Road Noise and Wind Noise.
That would still not deter me in any way from buying another one.
I am so glad they took that stupid spare tire off of the back like my 04 Had.
I am also glad that they give more choices of interior colors. (I hate the baby poop tan in any car) I have passed up really good deals just because they had that aweful color in them.
Dale
P/S If some do not like the stereo or the wheels or the black grille in the LX why did they buy one in the first place. Why not step up to the EX and have much more bang for the buck. What is $2000 over a 5 or 6 year loan for the peace of mind and acceptance? Can't understand some people. Also why would anyone every buy an SUV type vehicle and want it in 2WD Duh!
sleeksilver
05-02-2008, 07:39 AM
P/S If some do not like the stereo or the wheels or the black grille in the LX why did they buy one in the first place. Why not step up to the EX and have much more bang for the buck. What is $2000 over a 5 or 6 year loan for the peace of mind and acceptance? Can't understand some people. Also why would anyone every buy an SUV type vehicle and want it in 2WD Duh!
Not everyone has the money to do that and not everyone wants a sunroof. You can buy an LX and do the following:
1. Put an aftermarket stereo in that is WORLDS better than the OEM stuff
2. Aftermarket wheels or eBay the OEM 17's
3. Tint the windows
You can do those three things and save money all while still getting a great vehicle.
4hondaowner
05-02-2008, 08:04 AM
Not everyone has the money to do that and not everyone wants a sunroof. You can buy an LX and do the following:
1. Put an aftermarket stereo in that is WORLDS better than the OEM stuff
2. Aftermarket wheels or eBay the OEM 17's
3. Tint the windows
You can do those three things and save money all while still getting a great vehicle.
Damn good reply. I did all three above plus put on a EDM bumper with fog lights and I have a one-of-a-kind ride. And I also have XM radio which my wife loves!
:shock:
sleeksilver
05-02-2008, 08:53 AM
Damn good reply.
Thanks! :)
Nor_Cal_Dale
05-02-2008, 09:56 AM
Not everyone has the money to do that and not everyone wants a sunroof. You can buy an LX and do the following:
1. Put an aftermarket stereo in that is WORLDS better than the OEM stuff
2. Aftermarket wheels or eBay the OEM 17's
3. Tint the windows
You can do those three things and save money all while still getting a great vehicle.
The factory stereo in my EX with the 6 disc changer is awesome for factory. A sunroof, alloy wheels that are much better looking that the LX ugly ducklings. Factory floor mats that fit, chrome grille, factory tinted windows not that aftermarket garbage and just a much better looking ride all around.
I just can't understand why someone would go to all the work and money of trying to make an LX into an EX when it would have only cost them about $20.00 to $40.00 a month difference without all the hard work, then when your all done you still have an LX.
Just does not make sense to me at all. Maybe a few bucks a month does not mean that much to me to have what I want I guess.
Dale
4hondaowner
05-02-2008, 10:27 AM
I just can't understand why someone would go to all the work and money of trying to make an LX into an EX when it would have only cost them about $20.00 to $40.00 a month difference without all the hard work, then when your all done you still have an LX.
Just does not make sense to me at all. Maybe a few bucks a month does not mean that much to me to have what I want I guess. Dale
Good comments Dale but some like me bought our LX's used and it has been a calculated plan to do what I did. I hate steel wheels and had the 17" in the garage for three years before they went on our CR-V. The full tint came after my wife complained about our little greenhouse on a trip back from Corpus Christi. A sunroof would be nice but I don't use mine that often in my Legend.
But then buying a new LX vs. an EX is a different story. My second CR-V would be a 2006 EX 2WD. I get all the goodies I want but not the RT4WD drive I don't want.
:roll:
sleeksilver
05-02-2008, 10:53 AM
I am going to break down your post so I can respond to your points.
1. The factory stereo in my EX with the 6 disc changer is awesome for factory.
2. A sunroof, alloy wheels that are much better looking that the LX ugly ducklings. Factory floor mats that fit, chrome grille, factory tinted windows not that aftermarket garbage and just a much better looking ride all around.
3. I just can't understand why someone would go to all the work and money of trying to make an LX into an EX when it would have only cost them about $20.00 to $40.00 a month difference without all the hard work, then when your all done you still have an LX.
4. Just does not make sense to me at all. Maybe a few bucks a month does not mean that much to me to have what I want I guess.
Dale
Okay, there are a lot of things you said that don't make much sense or are incorrect.
1. The OEM system in the CR-V sucks, plain and simple. Spending only $300 on an aftermarket HU and speakers will put you well beyond what the EX comes equipped with, better SQ and far more customization options and maybe even iPod control.
2. Again, not everyone WANTS alloy wheels or a sunroof, that is not hard to understand. There are plenty of aftermarket floor mats that fit AND are of higher quality than the OEMs offered by Honda. Aftermarket tint does not look bad at all, and you can buy the OEM chrome grille. I do not understand why you think everything aftermarket is "garbage". :?
3. Work and money? It is VERY easy to do everything that I suggested and you would still save money. You need to realize that to some people $20-$40 a month is a lot of money or maybe they just don’t see the point in spending the extra dough when they are satisfied with what they have.
4. Maybe it does not make sense to other people to get the EX, maybe the few bucks extra to them is pointless because they already have what they want.
texgal
05-02-2008, 11:45 AM
The full tint came after my wife complained about our little greenhouse on a trip back from Corpus Christi.
:roll:
Are you implying it's hot in Texas?
:shock:
ASLGuy
05-02-2008, 01:05 PM
1. The OEM system in the CR-V sucks, plain and simple. Spending only $300 on an aftermarket HU and speakers will put you well beyond what the EX comes equipped with, better SQ and far more customization options and maybe even iPod control.
This is entirely a matter of opinion. I have the EX factory head unit and I like the way it sounds. Aftermarket stereos chop up your dash and don't look quite right, not to mention they invite thieves (thank God the EX has a standard security system).
RichK
05-02-2008, 01:24 PM
This is entirely a matter of opinion. I have the EX factory heard unit and I like the way it sounds. Aftermarket stereos chop up your dash and don't look quite right, not to mention they invite thieves (thank God the EX has a standard security system).
I agree completely.
sleeksilver
05-02-2008, 01:34 PM
This is entirely a matter of opinion. I have the EX factory heard unit and I like the way it sounds. Aftermarket stereos chop up your dash and don't look quite right, not to mention they invite thieves (thank God the EX has a standard security system).
I am merely putting it in perspective for Dale that for little money you can have MUCH better sound than what the EX offers. The OEM stereo in the EX really is not that great though, I didn't mean to offend anyone by that comment.
The aftermarkt unit in my CL did not chop up the dash at all and I personally think it looks better than the OEM unit that came out.
4hondaowner
05-02-2008, 01:51 PM
Are you implying it's hot in Texas?:shock:
After driving about 1,050 miles straight home from Corpus Christi, I would have to say that Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi and Georgia were all hot states. Full tint has made a big difference to our comfort.
OEM head unit gone from my ride and updated speakers also put into it. When I worry about theft, I can take the face plate off and take it with me.
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l220/4hondaowner/Picture016-1.jpg
:rolleyes:
skyout
05-02-2008, 02:12 PM
I just completed a trip back from El Paso, warm days and cool nights. Our son-in-law deployed to the mid east for 12-15 months so we flew out and drove our daughter's car ('04 Civic) back while she flew with our little granddaughter back home. We didn't want her to make the trip with the baby so we took some time off and made a mini vacation of it.
We went to the Carlsbad Caverns in NM, visited family in AL and then to SC to see our other granddaughter there.
I think TX on I 20 is the longest I've driven while seeing the least amount of cars! lol I must admit the drivers there were much more polite (maybe because everyone carries a handgun) and more lawfully minded of the speed limit.
4hondaowner
05-02-2008, 02:23 PM
I think TX on I 20 is the longest I've driven while seeing the least amount of cars! lol I must admit the drivers there were much more polite (maybe because everyone carries a handgun) and more lawfully minded of the speed limit.
If my memory serves me, there is a road sign in Orange, Texas on the eastern border as you come into the state on I-10. It has a mileage of something like 857 miles to El Paso, Texas on the western border. That would be an insane drive if done in one day.
They do many things bigger in Texas!
:roll:
Racoon
05-02-2008, 02:49 PM
I drove from Houston, TX to Albequerque, NM...once. Took me a day and a half.
:)
texgal
05-02-2008, 03:05 PM
Texas, it's like a whole other country!!
:mrgreen:
And yes they do make things bigger in Texas.....and you can drive for a day and a half and never get out of the state...been there...done that!!
:shock:
Formulad
05-02-2008, 03:12 PM
The factory stereo in my EX with the 6 disc changer is awesome for factory. A sunroof, alloy wheels that are much better looking that the LX ugly ducklings. Factory floor mats that fit, chrome grille, factory tinted windows not that aftermarket garbage and just a much better looking ride all around.
I just can't understand why someone would go to all the work and money of trying to make an LX into an EX when it would have only cost them about $20.00 to $40.00 a month difference without all the hard work, then when your all done you still have an LX.
Just does not make sense to me at all. Maybe a few bucks a month does not mean that much to me to have what I want I guess.
Dale
In this situation, i use my crv for a daily use, my daily beater... So i opted to get a cheaper version of the crv, cause i know i want a small suv, gets great MPG, and reliable so of course the crv came to mind and pocket.
I got my crv for an amazing price, but for people that are not so fortunate the 4k savings could do alot, rather than spending it on a car that is going to depreciate.
If there was a bigger jump in model differences, then i would understand why to get the EX! To me i would never get a fully loaded Honda, maybe acura.
liquidfuel88
05-02-2008, 10:30 PM
This is entirely a matter of opinion. I have the EX factory heard unit and I like the way it sounds. Aftermarket stereos chop up your dash and don't look quite right, not to mention they invite thieves (thank God the EX has a standard security system).
My Pioneer unit definitely looks a LOT better than the factory crap and my dash isn't chopped up.
:D
2008 Executive Navi A/T, today's feelings.
Don't like:
1) lack of power
2) fuel consumption
3) towing capability (the lack of)
4) no windscreen washer fluid end indicator (a weird thing in a $50k car)
5) no boot light
6) poor directional stability (improved after
7) no clock except on head unit LCD when it's on (i'd rather keep the LCD off)
8 ) no high and low frequencies on Premium Sound system. the 4" subwoofer is a joke
9) windscreen washer spray is not wide enough for the huge glass.
10) no slot for a mobile phone in the dash, i keep it in the floor lever compartment under the shifter
11) BT handsfree system is a usability disaster
12) Navi disc is outdated and undetailed (08/2006)
13) climate control/blower is weak
14) no coolbox
15) no bell for fuel reserve
Like:
1) fit and finish, cabin materials, dash design
2) good xenon projectors
3) old-style high beam switch (move the stalk forward instead of the modern tumbler switch by pulling the stalk)
4) panorama roof
5) good parking sensors and a camera
6) huge cabin space, massiv!
7) good seats with plenty of adjustment for the driver (me! me! me!)
8 ) large mirrors
9) rain sensor
Formulad
05-03-2008, 03:15 AM
2008 Executive Navi A/T, today's feelings.
Don't like:
1) lack of power
2) fuel consumption
3) towing capability (the lack of)
4) no windscreen washer fluid end indicator (a weird thing in a $50k car) This is weird for me too, but not the 50k part, lol
5) no boot light yea that bothered me too, but then im use to looking in the speedo!
6) poor directional stability (improved after
7) no clock except on head unit LCD when it's on (i'd rather keep the LCD off)
8 ) no high and low frequencies on Premium Sound system. the 4" subwoofer is a joke- did you reallly pay for a factory honda sound system?
9) windscreen washer spray is not wide enough for the huge glass.
10) no slot for a mobile phone in the dash, i keep it in the floor lever compartment under the shifter
11) BT handsfree system is a usability disaster
12) Navi disc is outdated and undetailed (08/2006)
13) climate control/blower is weak
14) no coolbox
15) no bell for fuel reserve what car has this feature....
Like:
1) fit and finish, cabin materials, dash design
2) good xenon projectors
3) old-style high beam switch (move the stalk forward instead of the modern tumbler switch by pulling the stalk)
4) panorama roof
5) good parking sensors and a camera
6) huge cabin space, massiv!
7) good seats with plenty of adjustment for the driver (me! me! me!)
8 ) large mirrors
9) rain sensor
Man only if the US cars came like that, ahhh what a dream...:-P
did you reallly pay for a factory honda sound system?
sure. i always prefer OEM look and integration.
15) no bell for fuel reserve what car has this feature....
i think my Taurus had it and my company Alero has it IIRC. the alero is for sale, wanna buy it? :lol:
Man only if the US cars came like that, ahhh what a dream...:-P
they do. the RDX, Murano and FX35/45 come with all this is guess 8)
4hondaowner
05-03-2008, 07:34 AM
This is entirely a matter of opinion. I have the EX factory head unit and I like the way it sounds. Aftermarket stereos chop up your dash and don't look quite right, not to mention they invite thieves (thank God the EX has a standard security system).
If I may answer the above comment this way, "How in the hell does my after market stereo - XM system invite thieves? There is no sign on the top of my CR-V that alerts them that it is in there. That is a tilted comment. And if I do feel insecure in any way, I open up the front of my Pioneer unit, take off the faceplate and put it into a convenient carrying case. Without the plate, the thieve has absolutely nothing of value."
My Pioneer unit definitely looks a LOT better than the factory crap and my dash isn't chopped up. :D
Yes it does David and thank you for convincing me that it was time for an upgrade in my wife's CR-V. The XM & Pioneer install you and I did is perfect. My wife loves the XM system.
There, now I feel better.
:-|
Soxer16
05-03-2008, 11:10 AM
I've only had the CRV for a couple days now, only 50 miles on it. I might add to the list, but so far...
Don't like:
-Fog Lights are not included as on other comparable vehicles
-The Front Center Console is way too short to be convenient at all. It
also isn't configured that great, including the hard to reach jacks and
outlet.
-Vanity Mirrors are not lit
-I wish there were better storage compartments in the front console,
easier to reach too
-The Standard Floormats are cheap cheap cheap
-They include Back Splash Guards and not Front Splash Guards
*I wish Honda dealers prices for accessories were the same as online. A local dealer in my area has cheap prices online, but when I asked if I could pick them up and save shipping charges, they said no. You can only get the dealer prices at the B&M store.
My Dealer's accessories prices are outrageous and his installation charges are even worse. If they're not going to include fog lights, they could at least not gouge you on the price when you're willing to pay extra for them.
The thing I like the best is probably Honda reliability. This is my first Honda. I hope it is as reliable and as good as its reviews are!
Formulad
05-03-2008, 01:53 PM
I've only had the CRV for a couple days now, only 50 miles on it. I might add to the list, but so far...
Don't like:
-Fog Lights are not included as on other comparable vehicles
-The Front Center Console is way too short to be convenient at all. It
also isn't configured that great, including the hard to reach jacks and
outlet.
-Vanity Mirrors are not lit
-I wish there were better storage compartments in the front console,
easier to reach too
-The Standard Floormats are cheap cheap cheap
-They include Back Splash Guards and not Front Splash Guards
*I wish Honda dealers prices for accessories were the same as online. A local dealer in my area has cheap prices online, but when I asked if I could pick them up and save shipping charges, they said no. You can only get the dealer prices at the B&M store.
My Dealer's accessories prices are outrageous and his installation charges are even worse. If they're not going to include fog lights, they could at least not gouge you on the price when you're willing to pay extra for them.
The thing I like the best is probably Honda reliability. This is my first Honda. I hope it is as reliable and as good as its reviews are!
Whoa that ticked me off too, i thought i was just a LX thing but i see you have a EXL, thats sad sad sad stuff
Formulad
05-03-2008, 01:56 PM
they do. the RDX, Murano and FX35/45 come with all this is guess 8)
The RDX is nice, if i didnt have the Suburban.
the new Murano are Beyond FUGLY, if anyone buys this mannn i feel so bad for you. The FX is so nice, love the exhaust sound !
-Vanity Mirrors are not lit
European models' vanity mirrors are lit.
also, i am happy to say that today a saw a Milano Red Gen3 Mugen CR-V near my friend's house. looks so cool in person.
blueiedgod
05-03-2008, 05:00 PM
I've only had the CRV for a couple days now, only 50 miles on it. I might add to the list, but so far...
Don't like:
-Fog Lights are not included as on other comparable vehicles
-The Front Center Console is way too short to be convenient at all. It
also isn't configured that great, including the hard to reach jacks and
outlet.
-Vanity Mirrors are not lit
-I wish there were better storage compartments in the front console,
easier to reach too
-The Standard Floormats are cheap cheap cheap
-They include Back Splash Guards and not Front Splash Guards
*I wish Honda dealers prices for accessories were the same as online. A local dealer in my area has cheap prices online, but when I asked if I could pick them up and save shipping charges, they said no. You can only get the dealer prices at the B&M store.
My Dealer's accessories prices are outrageous and his installation charges are even worse. If they're not going to include fog lights, they could at least not gouge you on the price when you're willing to pay extra for them.
The thing I like the best is probably Honda reliability. This is my first Honda. I hope it is as reliable and as good as its reviews are!
Whoa that ticked me off too, i thought i was just a LX thing but i see you have a EXL, thats sad sad sad stuff
How often do you people put on make up while driving? lol.....
:lol::D:lol:
Soxer16
05-03-2008, 05:06 PM
European models' vanity mirrors are lit.
Maybe the European version is costlier in comparison to the US?
Either way, Honda should have it on the U.S. version, especially the EX-L models.
It bugs me, but it's not a deal breaker or anything.
Soxer16
05-03-2008, 05:14 PM
How often do you people put on make up while driving? lol.....
:lol::D:lol:
Hey there, I didn't write it in bold & ten times bigger! :eek:
If you people are gonna quote me, quote me right,*lol*.:lol:
Maybe the European version is costlier in comparison to the US?
i'm afraid you're right.
PINODY
05-04-2008, 06:58 AM
The FX is so nice, love the exhaust sound !Yes it is indeed ... http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=31627
sleeksilver
05-04-2008, 04:31 PM
The RDX is nice, if i didnt have the Suburban.
the new Murano are Beyond FUGLY, if anyone buys this mannn i feel so bad for you. The FX is so nice, love the exhaust sound !
I can't stand the Murano. Most of Nissans new vehicles remind me of an insect... :? I have never been much of a fan of the sound of the VQ35 (350Z/G35/FX/etc), no offense to anyone.
Maybe the European version is costlier in comparison to the US?
The CR-V in some European countries can be more than $50,000 USD. For that kind of money they better be getting more features!!! :lol:
Check out www.honda.co.uk (http://www.honda.co.uk) for more details on the Euro CR-V and be prepared to be amazed with some of the stuff they get! :)
skyout
05-04-2008, 08:32 PM
Check out www.honda.co.uk (http://www.honda.co.uk) for more details on the Euro CR-V and be prepared to be amazed with some of the stuff they get! :)
I can see Ernie with his eyebrows going up!
:lol:
Soxer16
05-05-2008, 05:14 AM
The CR-V in some European countries can be more than $50,000 USD. For that kind of money they better be getting more features!!! :lol:
Check out www.honda.co.uk (http://www.honda.co.uk) for more details on the Euro CR-V and be prepared to be amazed with some of the stuff they get! :)
The British Pound is valued almost double than the US Dollar. The Euro is doing better than the U.S. Dollar too. The base price on a CRV on the website you posted is 18,990 British Pounds which is $37,432 U.S. Dollars(as of yesterday's currency charts). The base price on a CRV according to the U.S. website is $20,700.
So, I'm happy.:D
toady
05-07-2008, 09:03 AM
How often do you people put on make up while driving? lol.....
:lol::D:lol:
Me? Only rarely. ;)
But they could at least light the passenger's vanity mirror. It would certainly make my co-pilot happy. I've owned cars that cost half as much that included this on their base model. An EX-L? Come on there, Honda, pony up.
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