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clarion15090
09-28-2006, 06:28 PM
I tried to take shots showing the extra space behind the engine.

It's funny, the engine is jammed up against the radiator in the front. But, between the engine and the firewall there is gobs of empty space. Just a single gray hose occupies it in the pics.

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/554449916AuzRFi

sleeksilver
09-28-2006, 10:09 PM
Yes there is room for sure, but why would they put a V6 in there? It would be MUCH easier and more cost effective to put a detuned version of the RDX's turbo K series. If Honda is looking for more power, that is what they will do....

Flomobile
09-29-2006, 06:18 AM
Ugly or not, if Honda put the Pilot/Odyssey's 3.5L V6 into the CR-V, I'd drive one. It wouldn't be one of the slowest cars on the road with that delightful engine!!!

bronxblaza117
09-29-2006, 09:31 AM
im sure they got somethin up their sleeves...was reading on yahoo the other day that honda developed a new super clean diesel

Click (http://www.pollutiononline.com/content/news/article.asp?docid=7480901c-1f43-4b1c-a93c-abd41f1968d9&atc~c=771+s=773+r=001+l=a&VNETCOOKIE=NO)

Visiting_Guest
09-29-2006, 11:01 AM
i dunno if there is THAT much room in there, it honestly looks really tight besides the small gap in the back of the engine. I cant understand why they wouldnt think of retooling the Civic Si engine for the 07 release, that thing would have made a beautiful fit.

clarion15090
09-29-2006, 11:33 AM
i dunno if there is THAT much room in there, it honestly looks really tight besides the small gap in the back of the engine.

After I posted the pics I realized that I should have put a tape measure in there for reference. I agree that the pictures do not appear to show a lot of room.

I'm actually out of town away from the car. Maybe someone else can put an actual number to the extra room or take another picture with showing a ruler or something.

I can tell you that when you see it in person, it is a significant void, significant enough to keep V6 (or some other) option open IMO.

My '98 Odyssey (which was only conceived as a 4cyl) does not have the engine jammed up against the radiator fan motor with a big empty space behind it.

icaro
09-29-2006, 12:22 PM
I´m really concern why in northamerica, all ask for a 6 cil, theres a mecanical rule at more pieces more probably to fail, the number on the V compared against all the V6, for example the liberty 6 cil with 1,800 kgms are more slow than crv 4 cil with 1,356 kgms in the 0-60, the escape 6 cil are slower than V in the same test, even the X-trail are slow with a 4 cil 2.5 c.c. with 185 hp, so why are you looking for, probably your comparo are against bigger off roaders, the only who winns in aceleration it is the Rav4, at least at 2,400 meters over the sea, where i live.

If you are lookin a bigger car, then buy it, but why are you looking a 6 cil, better add turbo and tsx head, drive by wire so only 2005 and up, with only turbo the k24 deliver more than 300 hp with similar torque.

Pd. i dont think the V are one of the slowest, could you send me more info because the info i read before are diferent to yours, thanks. :shock:

clarion15090
09-29-2006, 12:58 PM
I´m really concern why in northamerica, all ask for a 6 cil, theres a mecanical rule at more pieces more probably to fail

In my case, the extra space under the hood is really just an intellectual curiosity. I drove the Rocket Rav V6 but opted for the new CRV instead.

But, I don't know that less parts are always better than more. If so, we'd all be driving one of these: http://www.3wheelers.com/projgal7.html

clarion15090
09-30-2006, 07:30 AM
After I posted the pics I realized that I should have put a tape measure in there for reference. I agree that the pictures do not appear to show a lot of room.

I'm actually out of town away from the car. Maybe someone else can put an actual number to the extra room or take another picture with showing a ruler or something.


Here's another pic with a ruler in it:

http://thumb10.webshots.net/t/18/19/6/88/51/2243688510043436830ccmFmX_th.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2243688510043436830ccmFmX)

pahns5
09-30-2006, 05:21 PM
Rumor has it the new CRV will get updated powertrains in its MMC(Mid Model Change(2010). It wiil get the next 2.4 that wiil be in the 2008 Accord. Possible 185 hp. Also a 2.0 diesel version. Trust me it needs it. Power is just adequate with 2 on board with the AC on. I would like to see a detuned 3.0 V6 from the Accord. Output around 220 HP. Honda should offer a V6 option. Also if you are going to put out 28 grand for a exl/NAV it should come with a 8 way power driver seat/memory seating and home link. Honda cost cutting is more apparent than ever.................

praningzkee
09-30-2006, 06:21 PM
they sure did leave alot of room in there. i think HONDA is up to something. they designed that engine bay gap with a purpose.

Skrapiron
09-30-2006, 06:50 PM
Saturn managed to do it with the Vue. That's the same size as the CR-V. I don't know WHY Honda doesn't offer that magnificent V-6 in the CR-V!!! After driving a Saturn with the 3.5, the CR-V's 2.4 just feels anemic. But its still a whole site more reliable than the Saturn ever could hope to be!

I read that there's a Hybrid planned for 2008. I'd rather see the 3.5 in there instead..

praningzkee
09-30-2006, 10:12 PM
hybrid CRV is more likely the case than a v6, knowing that some saturn vue and ford escape are already hybrids. although a v6 is still far from possibility, we don't want to count that out. if we don't get the v6, then we might get the watered down K24 from the RDX. that seems more cost efficient for honda and acura that way.

norsepanda
09-30-2006, 11:32 PM
they sure did leave alot of room in there. i think HONDA is up to something. they designed that engine bay gap with a purpose.
there's quite a bit of space in previous generation vehicle, the space isn't new for 2007. it could just be a safety feature or the means of getting more weight on the front wheels?

tractorboy
10-01-2006, 06:17 AM
A 2.2 litre i-CTDI diesel will also be offered in the European and Asian markets and in North America in October 2006, though due to lower fuel quality in North America, vehicles destined for this market will be of lower horsepower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CR-V

sleeksilver
10-01-2006, 08:18 AM
i dunno if there is THAT much room in there, it honestly looks really tight besides the small gap in the back of the engine. I cant understand why they wouldnt think of retooling the Civic Si engine for the 07 release, that thing would have made a beautiful fit.

Revs too high, not enough torque.

Trust me it needs it. Power is just adequate with 2 on board with the AC on. I would like to see a detuned 3.0 V6 from the Accord. Output around 220 HP. Honda should offer a V6 option. Also if you are going to put out 28 grand for a exl/NAV it should come with a 8 way power driver seat/memory seating and home link. Honda cost cutting is more apparent than ever.................

We will never see a V6 for the CRV. We would get a detuned version of the RDX's turbo K series.
I don't see Honda cost cutting very obvious at all. All the materials are rich, engine is smooth, switchgear works perfectly. No power seats? Don't be lazy and adjust it yourself..... :lol:

they sure did leave alot of room in there. i think HONDA is up to something. they designed that engine bay gap with a purpose.

You are right, but SAFETY is the reason and not so they can stuff a bigger motor in there. It is a part of the crumple zone, so the engine doesn't enter the cabin during a frontal impact :?



People, we will never see a V6 with the CRV. It is not cost effective for Honda to do that. They could easily just put the turbo K series in there which works PERFECTLY for the RDX. It obviously woulnd't have as much power, but the RDX is also heavier. I would much rather see a diesel than a V6 anyway....

pahns5
10-01-2006, 08:43 AM
I know it won't get a V6. I was suggesting it could benifit from more power. I have a friend that works for Honda and he said SHAWD and Turbos will be Acura only. As far as the interior is concerned It is very well put together, but well finished? Take another look it's all hard plastic!
As far as quality interiors GEN1 CRV had the best.

sleeksilver
10-01-2006, 01:41 PM
I know it won't get a V6. I was suggesting it could benifit from more power. I have a friend that works for Honda and he said SHAWD and Turbos will be Acura only. As far as the interior is concerned It is very well put together, but well finished? Take another look it's all hard plastic!
As far as quality interiors GEN1 CRV had the best.

It's an entry level SUV, what do you expect? It would cost more if they put soft touch vinyl in it. The competition is doing the exact same thing....

Gen 1 also had less equipment and sophistication, so it cost less to produce. Same goes for the 2nd gen.

The rest of the world already gets a turbo diesel, so are you only talking about NA and gasoline? or what?

Visiting_Guest
10-01-2006, 05:21 PM
i dunno if there is THAT much room in there, it honestly looks really tight besides the small gap in the back of the engine. I cant understand why they wouldnt think of retooling the Civic Si engine for the 07 release, that thing would have made a beautiful fit.

Revs too high, not enough torque.



thats why i said they should retool it, they have the perfect plant in the Si for the CRV

mdugan7000
10-09-2006, 07:11 PM
Space = crumple zone.

icaro
10-12-2006, 04:11 PM
clarion15090 wrote:

But, I don't know that less parts are always better than more. If so, we'd all be driving one of these: http://www.3wheelers.com/projgal7.html

sounds like VW ear your plegary


see this: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/AutoshowArticles/articleId=108747

or the T-rex

http://www.carefreelifestyle.com/car_info/T-Rex.html

:shock: