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Flomobile
09-27-2006, 08:55 PM
But I saw the new CR-V in person today. It doesn't look good. It looks like a Pacifica humped a Subaru B9 Tribeca and the pro-lifers made the Subie carry it to term. Bleahhhh!!!
THe interior looks okay, but doesn't appear as roomy as the pictures suggest. The rear looks terrible. Surprisingly, the front isn't the most offensive part. It actually looks good in some colors. The rear, however, has to go.
I can't believe that this is replacing the '06, and that I was actually excited to see them. Goofy doughnut spare, lower ride, testosterone-free lines. The Gen1/Gen2 aren't exactly masculine, but they are classy in an unpretentious, fun way. This abomination to the H-badge is trying too hard to be cute.
soccer_sta_86
09-27-2006, 09:04 PM
u noe wht u could do to make ur 2nd generation more mascular t&h griille guard with skid plate., it looks sweeet on my tan 05 crv. in black tho not chrome is its about 520 with offroad lights
mobortho
10-01-2006, 07:23 AM
Differences of opinions
The rear looks great to me, the front ugly but growing on us all, and the side view is puzzling. I'm glad the tire's GONE, and could care less if it's a donut. It's for emergency use only. Why carry around the weight of a full size tire? I've got an '02 and would never buy another vehicle with a spare hanging on the back. Another family member got rear-ended at about 20 in their '04, and the blow to the tire destroyed the entire rear door etc. I'm glad that tire has disappeared.
pahipo_aviv_V2
10-01-2006, 07:44 AM
passed by my local Honda dealership yesterday morning before they opened . . . . . my assessment on the 07 V based ONLY on how and where I (me only) utilize my 04 V . . . . . you can't do this anymore.
4hondaowner
10-01-2006, 07:59 AM
I kept an open mind when I finally took my cup of coffee over to Gwinnett Place Honda this morning. The front end looks a little like the 2003 Pilot I once had. The back end looks a bit different in person. No real feeling either way on this one for we are not in the market for a replacement. I saw 14 on the lot. None had manuals. What is with the three dimples on the side mirrors? All of them had the extra sticker which we all know is also known as "additional dealer markup." Price for this lovely sticker is $1,695.00 Not surprinsingly, they had at least eight 2006's lined up by the front door with red tag clearance stickers on them. Sticker price of $24,300 knocked down to $22,495. I agree with picture above my thread, not the vehicle I would want to take off-roading. The 17" rims look like they want flat ground. Element SC's were on lot also. Nice new 18" rims would look good on any CR-V.
mobortho
10-01-2006, 08:16 AM
I never thought the CRV was much of an off-roader in any generation. Just a great little utility vehicle. I had a 97 Jeep Wrangler for a few years. When you really want to rock climb, there are more serious options than any of the CRVs.
passed by my local Honda dealership yesterday morning before they opened . . . . . my assessment on the 07 V based ONLY on how and where I (me only) utilize my 04 V . . . . . you can't do this anymore.
you couldnt do it before either :lol:
your tire tracks gave you away - you climbed that hill on the right even side
but you took the picture on the left rocky side... i wonder why? :roll:
liquidfuel88
10-01-2006, 10:28 AM
my V has been on trails like that before :twisted:
Visiting_Guest
10-01-2006, 10:33 AM
passed by my local Honda dealership yesterday morning before they opened . . . . . my assessment on the 07 V based ONLY on how and where I (me only) utilize my 04 V . . . . . you can't do this anymore.
you couldnt do it before either :lol:
your tire tracks gave you away - you climbed that hill on the right even side
but you took the picture on the left rocky side... i wonder why? :roll:
haha buuuuuusted! :lol:
but seriously tho, you are kidding yourself if you think the Gen 1 or Gen 2 are "offroad" capable, small trails n stuff yea but , get serious!! :shock:
CollegeProf
10-01-2006, 02:09 PM
This reminds me of Nissan's Murano advertising, "Climb an onramp!" I love the photos and threads posted but seriously, "most" of us use our "tough SUVs" to get on and off the freeways! When I bought the first Gen CRV, I had visions of going "off road"....I think I swerved a few times off the shoulder and hit the grass-that was about it! :)
So, now that I've traded my Pilot in for the new Gen-it occured to me that it didn't matter it was more of a "crossover" vehicle because I wouldn't be going off road anyway. :wink:
Racoon
10-01-2006, 04:07 PM
Well, I've had mine off road a few times, including the Bradford, PA rallyes. The first year we drove along a snowmobile trail through the woods for several miles. Did I mention it was in the snow?
:D
CollegeProf
10-01-2006, 06:54 PM
Racoon,
I'm jealous! I wish I lived where it did snow and I could drive on a few of those trails! Although I take my life in my own hands just driving on freeways in Houston! :lol:
msfit32
10-01-2006, 07:58 PM
I checked out the 07 CRVs at the dealership Friday as I waited for an oil change on my 06.
There was a cute little red ladybug looking vehicle that I didn't recognize and when I walked over to it I was kinda shocked that it was a CRV! A EX L..... :shock:
It looks nothing like the previous ones thats for sure. My first impression was LITTLE....it looks smaller in every way from the height to the cargo area. It also looks like....welll...not an SUV thats for sure...more like a Murano or something....I bet it handles better? I don't know, but it wouldn't be something I would imagine camping in....
Then I went into the showroom and they had a blue one in there so I got in to check out the seats and all....the seats seemed quite a bit more comfy..the headroom was confining...I don't remember feeling clausterphobic in my 06. I did feel more confined. I liked the way the seats were positioned....More reclined and held you in...
The cargo area seemed much smaller....? I know it doesn't look smaller on paper, but it sure looks smaller in person. I don't know what to think of the shelf thingie...it would get in my way all of the time...thats what I remember thinking...how do you remove it? Of course a salesman appeared and began chatting my ear off so I had to leave to get some air....
I guess its definitely crossover...it looked Japanese anima (A-nim-A) how do you spell it? Like a cartoon caricature of a lady bug with an engine thrown in....the red one was cute..but not SUV...more hatchback..not refined or pretty or manly or anything....ladybug....smallish....
The lady who was my customer service help with the service department remarked she liked the old body style better when I expressed surprise at its looks....
Anyhow....if it drives quieter and more refined I guess its an improvement.....It didn't flip any switches for me.....yet... :?
Visiting_Guest
10-01-2006, 08:19 PM
what is misinformation is leading people to believe certain capabilities of the CRV - My family owns 3 06 SE's, and we have a place in the mountains, just dont over estimate its abilities
Racoon
10-01-2006, 08:29 PM
Note - I deleted several posts because of language or because they were reponses to the posts deleted because of the language.
Please keep it friendly and clean.
Thanks,
Rac...
Tasty
10-01-2006, 09:02 PM
I saw the road test on MotorWeek this morning on PBS and all I can say is, "Blech." The new V is butt ugly and looks like a minivan. Glad I didn't wait for the redesign. Only thing I like about it is no spare on the back end now. Other than that it's a total loss.
Coach
10-01-2006, 10:07 PM
what is misinformation is leading people to believe certain capabilities of the CRV - My family owns 3 06 SE's, and we have a place in the mountains, just dont over estimate its abilities
Mikey1981 - You have three 2006 CR-V SE's and you have a place in the mountains. Are you saying the CR-V's are adaquate or inadaquae for getting you to your place? Is your place in the mountains accessible via paved or dirt roads? Does it snow in the winter?
It sounds as if you have real world experience and I wanted to hear more about what you thought its capabillities were based on your experience.
OSX2000
10-02-2006, 04:11 AM
http://www.hondasuv.com/main2/files/intothevalley.jpg
http://www.hondasuv.com/main2/files/incoming.jpg
Great pics!!! I would've loved to go to a big meet of all 1st-gens! :lol:
Visiting_Guest
10-02-2006, 08:25 AM
what is misinformation is leading people to believe certain capabilities of the CRV - My family owns 3 06 SE's, and we have a place in the mountains, just dont over estimate its abilities
Mikey1981 - You have three 2006 CR-V SE's and you have a place in the mountains. Are you saying the CR-V's are adaquate or inadaquae for getting you to your place? Is your place in the mountains accessible via paved or dirt roads? Does it snow in the winter?
It sounds as if you have real world experience and I wanted to hear more about what you thought its capabillities were based on your experience.
it is adequate, for sure. Accessability is mostly paved, some dirt, the grade depends on where im heading. Ascending/descending it works, but the 2007 model added 4 channel ABS so each wheel will be independent, where my 06 is a 3 channel system. (front wheels independent, rear wheels work the same regardless of breaking/traction situation)
Dont get me wrong, the CRV is a fantastic mover, but it is still a small sports ute.
It has its limitations at 166HP and AWD, w/o the ability to lock the axle like 4wd models, like the Pilot. In other words, where you would need the axle locked in take-off in heavier snow and certain situations, that ability is just not there. If you want to climb steeper grades, you will find that some situations you will need power being sent to all 4 wheels, all the time, in which case the CRV system only engages when it detects slippage and loss of traction. So, when I take my car up a moutainside during a snow storm, and you are travelling at a low speed, the CRV is still 2wd when it may need to be in a tougher stronger 4wd situation at all times
this is just my experience, I am def not an "offroader" like some of the people here on the board, but so far, its been adequate and we havent had any problems
Coach
10-02-2006, 09:53 AM
Mikey1981 - Thank you for your insight. In what area of the country is your cabin located? I'm just trying to get a feel of altitude, severity of snow, local conditions, etc.
sleeksilver
10-02-2006, 09:55 AM
Rac, where did you get those pictures??!?
Visiting_Guest
10-02-2006, 10:05 AM
Mikey1981 - Thank you for your insight. In what area of the country is your cabin located? I'm just trying to get a feel of altitude, severity of snow, local conditions, etc.
North Conway, NH
CRV does great in the cold, never had a non-start morning, heat blows efficiently during warm up, it really has been a charm all around. The only thing i wish it had is heated outside mirrors
Uncle Smitty
10-02-2006, 10:38 AM
The rear shelf is rated for 20 pounds.
I guess it's handy for hauling a feather duster.
Racoon
10-02-2006, 11:01 AM
Rac, where did you get those pictures??!?
I took them. In the picture of the person throwing a snow ball, my CR-V is the one in the lower left corner that you can only see the right side mirror and front end.
In this picture mine is the red one with the bra. To the right of me the black one is GoongaRon's "Gadget". I'm sorry, but I don't remember everyone else that was there.
The outing was in March 2001, which is why you don't see any 2nd Gen CR-Vs.
:D
gravity_hunter
10-02-2006, 11:57 AM
Racoon,
Thanks for those pictures. It looks like you guys had a lot of fun.
Soccer_sta_86
You mentioned that you have a T&H Grille guard with skid plate. I would love to see pictures. Pretty, pretty please! :lol:
blueiedgod
10-02-2006, 12:04 PM
I never thought the CRV was much of an off-roader in any generation. Just a great little utility vehicle. I had a 97 Jeep Wrangler for a few years. When you really want to rock climb, there are more serious options than any of the CRVs.
Speak for your self.
Off-roading does not necessarily have to be rock climbing.
The guy in the H1 Hummer would laught at your Wrangler and call it "incapable" as well.
People with closed minds should keep their mouth closed"
CRV does great in the cold, never had a non-start morning, heat blows efficiently during warm up, it really has been a charm all around. The only thing i wish it had is heated outside mirrors
Yes. Heated outside mirrors are a ery important safety feature. I think in Canada it's mandatory. Now it is available on some of the Gen3 models. I guess you could get it installed at the dealer too.
soccer_sta_86
10-02-2006, 02:48 PM
mohobo, lemme tell u somethin i ot rear ended nd the guy goy my tire nd yea it messed up the door, but look @ it this way,with no tires, ur car would have been hit with more force nd casuin more damage , atleast the rubber absorbed most of the damage..
i like the new 07 crv, but not enough 2 trade in my 05 4 it.. id really wished my 05 crv came with runing lights, tire montiorin system, nd temperature gauages..
Tasty
10-02-2006, 07:55 PM
I never thought the CRV was much of an off-roader in any generation. Just a great little utility vehicle. I had a 97 Jeep Wrangler for a few years. When you really want to rock climb, there are more serious options than any of the CRVs.
Speak for your self.
Off-roading does not necessarily have to be rock climbing.
The guy in the H1 Hummer would laught at your Wrangler and call it "incapable" as well.
People with closed minds should keep their mouth closed"
Folks, let's not kid ourselves here. The V may be capable of a small amount of "off-roading", but when is the last time you saw one in Moab or trekking through some really intense terrain. Get real.
I love my V too, but I'll be damned if you ever see me challenging it to get me through a giant mudhole or something just for fun.
blueiedgod
10-02-2006, 08:13 PM
mohobo, lemme tell u somethin i ot rear ended nd the guy goy my tire nd yea it messed up the door, but look @ it this way,with no tires, ur car would have been hit with more force nd casuin more damage , atleast the rubber absorbed most of the damage..
i like the new 07 crv, but not enough 2 trade in my 05 4 it.. id really wished my 05 crv came with runing lights, tire montiorin system, nd temperature gauages..
Speaka engrish?
I need a translation.
SoFlaDad
10-02-2006, 08:24 PM
The rear shelf is rated for 20 pounds.
I guess it's handy for hauling a feather duster.
Or a couple boxes of pillows...
CRVBC
10-04-2006, 01:09 PM
Yes. Heated outside mirrors are a very important safety feature. I think in Canada it's mandatory. Now it is available on some of the Gen3 models. I guess you could get it installed at the dealer too.
TMQ I don't have them on my 06 SE or need them. Maybe If I lived in the Yukon or Ontario. We have such mild winters on the west coast so it's not really an issue. And with the global warming we're getting less rain and more sun!
mohobo, lemme tell u somethin i ot rear ended nd the guy goy my tire nd yea it messed up the door, but look @ it this way,with no tires, ur car would have been hit with more force nd casuin more damage , atleast the rubber absorbed most of the damage..
i like the new 07 crv, but not enough 2 trade in my 05 4 it.. id really wished my 05 crv came with runing lights, tire montiorin system, nd temperature gauages..
I was thinking the same thing. Not sure if the damage was less severe due to the spare tire on the back. For me, that full size spare has been great - wearing the fancy duds to work and get that tire off rather quickly/cleanly when I've picked up some construction debris that punctured one of my tires and requiring me to use the spare. No problem in a busy week, no rush to get a donut replaced, as I'm all set with the full size tire. plus, I'd hate yanking everything out of the back cargo area to uncover a donut that would be stashed under there.
bluewho25
10-04-2006, 02:53 PM
We got rear ended while stopped on a 2004 CRV-EX and it had severe damage due to the spare tire on the back.
The spare tire is not in the center, so the right top frame moved about 3/4" compared to the left side.
We got hit by someone who was using a cell phone while driving a 2002 Dodge Ram 3/4 Ton at about 45 to 50MPH. The idiot never hit the brakes.
I had my family in the car.
The CRV at that time had only 7K miles. After that we felt like we were driving a beat up CRV. It was never the same.
El Guapo
Dragonfly
10-04-2006, 03:10 PM
Someone rear ends you at 45-50 mph while you're standing still, your vehicle WILL never be the same - rear tire or not.
4hondaowner
10-04-2006, 11:01 PM
Dragonfly has a HondaSUV sticker, I agree with him.
mdugan7000
10-05-2006, 10:00 PM
We got rear ended while stopped on a 2004 CRV-EX and it had severe damage due to the spare tire on the back.
The spare tire is not in the center, so the right top frame moved about 3/4" compared to the left side.
We got hit by someone who was using a cell phone while driving a 2002 Dodge Ram 3/4 Ton at about 45 to 50MPH. The idiot never hit the brakes.
I had my family in the car.
The CRV at that time had only 7K miles. After that we felt like we were driving a beat up CRV. It was never the same.
El Guapo
Dang. I would like to see the pics of that! (see signature)
Glad you were OK. I couldn't imagine what my truck would do to one of my own V's!
ps - i use a hands free unit...
For me, that full size spare has been great - wearing the fancy duds to work and get that tire off rather quickly/cleanly when I've picked up some construction debris that punctured one of my tires and requiring me to use the spare. No problem in a busy week, no rush to get a donut replaced, as I'm all set with the full size tire. plus, I'd hate yanking everything out of the back cargo area to uncover a donut that would be stashed under there.
Not to mention where to put a wet, muddy flat after swapping it for the spare; hanging it outside certainly seems like the best solution to me!
Incidentally, if, as it appears, there is no cargo cover available, just the (relatively low) package tray, and the under-floor compartment is taken up by the spare, that's a huge loss of concealed cargo space. For longer trips, by moving our rear seats forward so there's minimal legroom in the back, (which is accomodated by the forward "roller-blind",) we've found we can carry a tremendous amount of stuff, including a full-sized ice chest and duffles full of outdoor gear, all out of sight! I would definitely miss that ability. And it was pretty easy to rig a locking arrangement for the picnic table, something that was very useful when I was working and parked in attended lots where you must leave your keys.
CollegeProf
10-06-2006, 09:30 AM
Rags,
If you're referring to a cargo cover for the new CRV, I saw one on the CollegeHills site. See below.
Cargo Cover
Conceals items stored in cargo area. The design of the cover accommodates the rear seat split feature. 3 colors are available.
Black# 08Z07-SWA-110
Ivory# 08Z07-SWA-120
Gray# 08Z07-SWA-130
Application: 2007 CR-V
Installation Instructions PDF Your Price: $174.00
Retail Price: $235.00
Status - Available
Firemedic
10-12-2006, 09:37 AM
Honda sorely needs a capable small suv in their product line. It would be nice to have something to compete with the Rav4 which is really getting popular. The crv used to have a rugged look that was cute enough to attract buyers from multiple demographic groups. Now it seems that most of the crv buyers will be female. I'm not the most macho guy around, but there is really nothing that attracts me to the new crv. It looks very soft and feminine. Not that there is anything wrong with that. :lol: Personnaly I'm leaning heavily towards the Nissan Exterra. :)
i thought men are attracted to "soft and feminine" :roll:
arent you? :lol:
Visiting_Guest
10-12-2006, 12:48 PM
Honda sorely needs a capable small suv in their product line. It would be nice to have something to compete with the Rav4 which is really getting popular. The crv used to have a rugged look that was cute enough to attract buyers from multiple demographic groups. Now it seems that most of the crv buyers will be female. I'm not the most macho guy around, but there is really nothing that attracts me to the new crv. It looks very soft and feminine. Not that there is anything wrong with that. :lol: Personally I'm leaning heavily towards the Nissan Exterra. :)
CR-V is more than capable to do mostly anything short of its engine power. If you are basing its possible performance on its looks, well that's another story. Female looking or not, it still gets the job done
Firemedic
10-12-2006, 08:32 PM
i thought men are attracted to "soft and feminine" :roll:
arent you? :lol:
Ah, etc. Your just a barrel of laughs aren't you. :roll:
It's obvious that I'm a little disappointed in the direction Honda went with the New Crv. I think this design will attract just as many new customers as it will lose old ones. Like anything in life you cant please everyone, so in the spirit of keeping the forum civil and friendly I will return to the old forums. Good luck with your new V's. Maybe it will grow on me, maybe not. Later. :)
xcitableboi
10-14-2006, 07:23 AM
etc wrote:
i thought men are attracted to "soft and feminine"
arent you?
Most of us are. But just because I like the way my wife looks in sheer lingerie doesn't mean I want to try it on!!!
According to Honda, the target market for the New CR-V is the young metrosexual mom. If there goal was to alienate everyone else they've thus far done a pretty good job.
BTW, My wife (and mother of my child) also thinks the new CR-V is god-awful ugly.
The Marketing departments of these car companies don't have a clue what appeals to the average consumer. I've seen alot of
young mom's driving around in Silverado's and Ridelines. I think part of the reason for that is that most of us don't like to be pigeon-holed or stereo-typed into what kind of vehicle we should be driving. Probably one of the dumbest things Honda could have done was go public with the demographics for it's target market.
A better strategy would have been to compare the buyer profile with that of the target market to find out how far they were off.
skooly
10-14-2006, 08:57 AM
I'm a 36-year-old meat-and-potato eating male, and I think the new CRV is awesome. I am dumping my current sports car for one. My sexuality is not challenged by a vehicle that excels in comfort and convenience and efficiency. My self-identity has nothing to do with what I drive.
It's ridiculous to see Gen 1&2 owners dumping all over Gen3 owners, as if the first two generations were monoliths of machismo. If you are that hung up on outward appearances, I think you may have larger problems than you realize. Maybe you would be happier with a new 500 horsepower Corvette?
:) Great post, skooly. My feelings exactly.
Racoon
10-14-2006, 09:28 AM
It's ridiculous to see Gen 1&2 owners dumping all over Gen3 owners, as if the first two generations were monoliths of machismo. If you are that hung up on outward appearances, I think you may have larger problems than you realize.
And I think it's ridiculous to see people who like the looks of the 3rd Gen CR-V ridiculing those people who don't like the looks of the 3rd Gen CR-V. It's an opinion. I'm entitled to mine, you're entitled to yours.
Because my opinion is different than yours does not mean I have a "problem". Suggesting other wise is just silly.
JM2C
Because my opinion is different than yours does not mean I have a "problem". Suggesting other wise is just silly.
The difference is that you state that you didn't like it, and that's it. Nothing wrong with that. You don't go into it over and over with all kinds of silly reasons.
Dragonfly
10-14-2006, 10:00 AM
Some reasons for preferring the older Gens are not silly at all....
LOL. The ladder looks great on that spare. Perfect match. :lol:
CollegeProf
10-14-2006, 11:59 AM
It's like one of my students said one time, "Opinions are like belly buttons-everyone's got em!" (I'll never forget that one!)
I think where everyone is becoming "offended" is when the Gen 3's are being referred to as "feminine." It's all relative isn't it? I'm sure the postings of the full-size crew-cab truck sites would crack up at our even remotely referring to the CRV as "masculine" when they think that ONLY THEIR vehicles rank that level! (get my point). It's all relative.
I personally think the CRV is comfortbable yet sporty and maneuvers really well-especially compared to the behemoth Pilot I just traded in (which I loved!). Had the First Gen CRV - Now have the 3rd - love them both!
Dragonfly
10-14-2006, 12:24 PM
LOL. The ladder looks great on that spare. Perfect match. :lol:
Not feminine enough...I know :P
Coach
10-14-2006, 01:26 PM
People, can't we all just get along? :cry:
Dragonfly
10-14-2006, 02:21 PM
People, can't we all just get along? :cry:
My "feminine" comment was tongue-in-cheek.
The bottom line is - people buy vehicles for differing reasons. I need Utility out of my sUv. Others like form more than function. No one's right or wrong in their choice. I traded in a minivan because it wouldn't do all the things I needed it to do. Had I been satisfied with it, I'd probably have bought another minivan or a sedan.
The '07 doesn't do it for me, though I'm sure it'll sell well. In 7 or 8 years, when I need another vehicle, I may have different needs or other choices.
I don't think anyone will argue that the Gen3 is a dramatically different vehicle than the Gen1 & 2. For some, that's a plus and for some a minus. That's life.
People, can't we all just get along? :cry:
We are getting along just fine. Having fun with friends. That's all :P
xcitableboi
10-14-2006, 05:41 PM
[/b]Skooly wrote
Maybe you would be happier with a new 500 horsepower Corvette?
I wouldn't mind one of those- know where I can get one for the same price as a CR-V???
bluewho25
10-15-2006, 01:02 AM
Well, I owned a 03' and 06' V6 Accord, 04' and 05" CRV-EX AWD but I love this one better
http://www.hondasuv.com/main2/files/o_3_676_x_507__138.jpg
More pictures here
http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopic.php?t=19365
And here are some of the reasons:
Safety
Every 2007 CR-V was designed with Safety for Everyone in mind—Honda's philosophy that everyone deserves advanced levels of safety, regardless of the price or size of their vehicle. The all-new CR-V offers even more advanced standard safety features than previous models.
• Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure
• Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
• Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
• Side curtain airbags with rollover sensor
• Dual-stage, dual-threshold front airbags (SRS)
• Front side airbags with passenger-side Occupant Position Detection System (OPDS)
• Daytime Running Lights (DRL)
More Power
The 2007 CR-V features an extensively updated engine with more horsepower, better fuel economy and cleaner emissions.
• 166-hp, 2.4-liter, 16-valve DOHC i-VTEC® engine
• EPA (city/hwy): 2WD: 23/30, 4WD: 22/28
• Maintenance Minder™ system to take the guesswork out of servicing
• Drive-by-Wire™ throttle system
• 5-speed automatic transmission
• ULEV-2 rating
Interior
• Available Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System™ with voice
recognition and rearview camera
• Tilt and telescopic steering column
• MP3/auxiliary input jack
• Illuminated steering wheel-mounted controls
• White and blue backlit gauges
• Instrument panel-mounted shifter
• Conversation mirror with sunglasses holder
But I will not argue with you if your preference is a previous generation, still a Honda right?
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