2007 CRV Press Release

[98AccordEx]

from www.autodeadline.com

http://www.autodeadline.com/detail?source=Honda&mid=HON2006082446338&mime=ASC

CR-V LX:
166 hp, 2.4-liter 16-valve i-VTEC engine, 5-speed automatic transmission, available Real Time 4WD system, 4-channel anti-lock braking system (ABS) with Electronic Brake Distribution and Brake Assist, Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) with traction control, 17-inch steel wheels, Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS), front, front side and side curtain airbags with rollover sensor, daytime running lights (DRL), Maintenance Minder system, AM/FM/CD audio system with MP3/WMA playback and four speakers, MP3/auxiliary audio input jack, air conditioning with air-filtration system, tilt and telescoping steering column, conversation mirror with sunglasses holder, power windows with drivers auto up/down, programmable power door locks, power side mirrors, retractable center tray table, upper and lower glove compartments, under-seat storage bin, 60/40 split sliding fold and tumble rear seats, ambient console lighting, remote entry system

CR-V EX adds or replaces LX features:
One-touch power moonroof with tilt feature, chrome grille and rear license trim, rear privacy glass, security system, steering wheel-mounted audio controls, dual-deck cargo shelf, AM/FM/6-disc in-dash audio system with six speakers, exterior temperature indicator, 17-inch alloy wheels

CR-V EX-L adds or replaces EX features:
Leather trimmed seats and armrests, heated front seats, body-colored side mirrors and door handles, XM Satellite Radio, available Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation with Voice Recognition(TM) and rearview camera, AM/FM/6-disc center console CD changer audio system with seven speakers including subwoofer (with navigation)

CR-V Background

Introduced to the U.S. market in 1997 as one of the pioneers in the entry sport utility vehicle market, the versatile and fun-to-drive Honda CR-V became the benchmark for this fast growing segment of vehicles. The CR-V broke new ground in the truck/car crossover market with its long list of standard features, competitive price, renowned Honda quality and spirited performance.

Not only did the CR-V help establish a new breed of small, smart and functional vehicles, but it also became the best-selling vehicle in the segment. The CR-V was the first Honda-designed and engineered SUV. It combines 4-wheel-drive capability and utility with passenger-car drivability, comfort and convenience.

The CR-V is truly a global product for Honda sold in 160 countries in North America, Europe, Asia, South America and Africa. In fact, the CR-V is sold in more countries than any other Honda automotive product. Worldwide, cumulative sales are approximately 2.5 million (since 1996) with 1.2 million sold in the United States (since 1997). Worldwide, 334,000 units were sold in 2005 with 150,000 sold in the United States.

Manufacturing

Worldwide, the CR-V is built in seven countries at eight factories, and for the first time it will be built in North America at Honda of America Manufacturing in the East Liberty Plant.

Honda Value

Every Honda is a model of smart value thanks to timeless design, top-of-class fuel efficiency, legendary reliability and extended service intervals. Recent Honda accolades include "Best Resale Value" awards from Kelly Blue Book, eight 2006 "Best Overall Value of the Year" awards from IntelliChoice and for the three consecutive years Honda has won the prestigious "Industry Brand Residual Value Award" from Automotive Lease Guide.

Some highlights of CR-V awards include:

Autobytel: Best Car for Teen Drivers (2006)
Consumer Guide: Best Buy Compact SUV (2006, 2005)
Vencentric: Best Value in America, Compact SUV, under $22,500 (2006, 2005)
Automotive Lease Guide: Compact SUV Residual Value Award (2005)
Intellichoice: Compact Sport Utility Class Over $21,000 (2005)
Edmunds.com: Lowest True Cost to Own: SUV Under $25,000 (2004)
J.D. Power & Associates: Vehicle Dependability Study - Highest Ranked Entry SUV (2004)
The Car Book: Best Bet (2004)
Car and Driver: 5 Best Trucks (2003, 2002)

[Racoon]

Intersting, but I see a small problem.

Look at the bottom of the page. The "Page 1 | 2" link. The page your URL displays is Page 2, the Page 1 link points to:

http://hondanews.com/CatID2013?mid=2006082442962&mime=asc

But http://hondanews.com/CatID2013 is Civic Technical information, not CR-V.

CR-V technical information on Hondanews.com is CatID2034.


Sorry, but I'm not sure I believe the information, especially since the information "release date" is 8 days in the future.

JM2C

[Dragonfly]

Would this classify as Rumor, Speculation or Wishful Thinking? :wink:

A few interesting points, if accurate:

No more SE model? EX-L replaces it? (makes me think this release may not be for the US market).

No XM Satellite Radio option on the EX.

The return of the underseat storage bin.

Retractable center tray table still there.

The rest is pretty much as we've read elsewhere.

[98AccordEx]

I can understand your skepticism (rumors, speculation, etc. etc.) but come on. Every other link at this site matches the Hondanews site information word for word. I really think it's just a leaked press release. In addition there isn't anything spectacular in this item. I agree from the main page both releases (page 1 & page 2) take you to the same page which appears to be page two of the release. Page one which is missing probably discusses the direction the designers were goig with the design, outlines new features, etc. You know standard Honda FMC introduction stuff.

[98AccordEx]

Intersting, but I see a small problem.

Look at the bottom of the page. The "Page 1 | 2" link. The page your URL displays is Page 2, the Page 1 link points to:

http://hondanews.com/CatID2013?mid=2006082442962&mime=asc

But http://hondanews.com/CatID2013 is Civic Technical information, not CR-V.

JM2C

Yes but Honda CRV releases are CatID2031, perhaps somebody mistyped 2013 instead of 2031???

[wallace1297]

I think Honda has missed the mark if the 2007 CRV only has 166 HP
All the competition have V6 200 hp or more engine options.

[YummyPork]

I think Honda has missed the mark if the 2007 CRV only has 166 HP
All the competition have V6 200 hp or more engine options.

What do you need 200 hp for? :wink:

I'm going to go with the idea that this is a leaked press release. Someone provisioned it up on their web site and didn't hide it well enough... happens all the time with other products.

Looks good.

[mcbeevee]

I'm reasonably sure the EX-L will be available in the US. Honda does not want us to wait 3 more years on the SE model to get leather seats! The only thing that looks out of place to me is the 60/40 rear seats and the under seat storage. All other "rumor, speculation, wishful thinking" has the rear seats as 40/20/40, and the under seat storage went away with the 2005 CR-V. :)

[wallace1297]

I think Honda has missed the mark if the 2007 CRV only has 166 HP
All the competition have V6 200 hp or more engine options.

What do you need 200 hp for? :wink:

I'm going to go with the idea that this is a leaked press release. Someone provisioned it up on their web site and didn't hide it well enough... happens all the time with other products.

Looks good.

Because 166 Hp is a dog
try going up a mountain highway with less?
My friend has a Toyota Highlander, and I compared that with my 2003 CRV
What a difference - the 220 hp Highlander cruised up 80 mph without downshifting.

[YummyPork]

I think Honda has missed the mark if the 2007 CRV only has 166 HP
All the competition have V6 200 hp or more engine options.

What do you need 200 hp for? :wink:

I'm going to go with the idea that this is a leaked press release. Someone provisioned it up on their web site and didn't hide it well enough... happens all the time with other products.

Looks good.

Because 166 Hp is a dog
try going up a mountain highway with less?
My friend has a Toyota Highlander, and I compared that with my 2003 CRV
What a difference - the 220 hp Highlander cruised up 80 mph without downshifting.

Yes - the Cascades (Washington State) in my 113 hp '96 Ford Ranger. Not the speediest on the steeper bits but it does OK and I can maintain the speed limit. I've yet to run out of steam and start rolling backwards....

Pork

[Racoon]

I think Honda has missed the mark if the 2007 CRV only has 166 HP
All the competition have V6 200 hp or more engine options.
Sorry, I'm not buying it. If you're comparing the Highlander to the CR-V then you've made a mistake. The Pilot competes with the Highlander -- in equipment, engine, and price.

JM2C

[KW Sluggo]

First time long time and the owner of a 1997 CRV with 316,000 Kms on it.

I have been waiting and waiting and waiting so I have to say 166 ponies doesn't cut it.

First of all it merely meets the RAV4 minimum and in a vehicle with less interior room. To effectively market against the RAV4, this new CRV must have a HP that is higher than the RAV4 4 banger.

Secondly, if the Euro numbers are correct, they get a 190 HP choice.

Thirdly, in Canada the mid level model will be less well equipped than a RAV 4 Limited 4 cylinder and a RAV4 V6 Sport model but will cost at least as much.

Yes, I may not need the 268 HP of the Toyota V6 but to get that at the same price with little to no mpg penalty is too much to pass up particularly when the build quality is pretty much a toss-up.

I sincerely hope this "press release" is fiction.

[KW Sluggo]

I went to that website and ultimately ended up with a pretty much blank page at hondanews.com.

So I backed out completely and went directly to hondanews.com but could find no 2007 CRV press release.

I think Racoon is right - it's a fake.

[jswift2000]

I dont think its a fake. Go to the link (http://www.autodeadline.com/detail?source=Honda&mid=HON2006082446338&mime=ASC), scroll to the bottom of the page and click the 1 at the bottom of the page (1|2). It will bring you to a honda press page prompting you for credentials.

[Racoon]

I dont think its a fake. Go to the link (http://www.autodeadline.com/detail?source=Honda&mid=HON2006082446338&mime=ASC), scroll to the bottom of the page and click the 1 at the bottom of the page (1|2). It will bring you to a honda press page prompting you for credentials.
But first it takes you to a blank page. Only when you click on the txt link does it prompt you for credentials. All downloads from Hondanews require login credentials.

JM2C

[etc]

The return of the underseat storage bin.
sounds like a bad horror movie :lol:

But http://hondanews.com/CatID2013 is Civic Technical information, not CR-V.
its based on the civic isnt it :wink:

[AoS]

I think Honda has missed the mark if the 2007 CRV only has 166 HP
All the competition have V6 200 hp or more engine options.
Nobody said there won't be any other engine option ... probably not for the 2007 MY but I wouldn't be surprised to see either hybrid or diesel for 2008 in the US.

[98AccordEx]

Anybody else curious as to why this link hasn't been removed???
Real or fraud, shouldn't Honda have made them take it down? Perhaps if they made them take it down it would substantiate the posted press release?

Has anybody heard of autodeadline.com before??

[mcbeevee]

Real or fraud, shouldn't Honda have made them take it down? Perhaps if they made them take it down it would substantiate the posted press release?
It is all part of Honda's 2007 CR-V mis-information campaign!! :D

[98AccordEx]

Real or fraud, shouldn't Honda have made them take it down? Perhaps if they made them take it down it would substantiate the posted press release?
It is all part of Honda's 2007 CR-V mis-information campaign!! :D

Oh so the "real" press release will tell us about the 250hp V6, 3rd row seat, and monkey that fly out of the tailpipe. :lol:

[98AccordEx]

Well if the press releases at autodeadlines are fake then they just kickedout more of them..

Main page
http://www.autodeadline.com/Brand?Source=Honda

Specifications
http://www.autodeadline.com/detail?source=Honda&mid=HON2006082452379&mime=ASC

Cargo volume up slightly to 72.9cu ft (remember the RDX is just over 60?)

Features:
http://www.autodeadline.com/detail?source=Honda&mid=HON2006082452090&mime=ASC

Powertrain also available

[98AccordEx]

Rear seats are 60/40 NOT 40/20/40

Max Cargo volume at 72.9

tire size up to 225/65/17

GROUND CLEARANCE 7.3 inches

tow rating still 1500

[jswift2000]

Then are these fake as well?

http://www.autodeadline.com/index.html?kw=Acura%20RDX

[98AccordEx]

Then are these fake as well?

http://www.autodeadline.com/index.html?kw=Acura%20RDX

I was being sarcastic. But some won't accept anything as real until September 1st.

[jswift2000]

LOL!!! I believe you are correct.

The specs do look promising. The one thing that bothers me is I keep hearing no nav until 1/2007. I cant figure that move out. The NAV is great (we have it in our MDX, which we're selling b/c its so awful on gas) and I would be bumbed if ours doesnt have one.

[98AccordEx]

Seems the rear seat fold 40/20/40 but tumble 60/40. So you can use the 20 as a pass-through at seat level? Better than nothing.

Rear seats still move fore-aft

Designed for practicality and convenience, the fold and tumble seat design allows for a flat cargo floor. When folded, the three head restraints can remain in the seat backs (no removal necessary). Maximum cargo length equals about 51 inches and the maximum width ranges between approximately 39 inches (at wheel wells) to 54 inches (rear cargo area side panels). The rear seats slide forward and backward to allow for the optimization of the cargo area and second row passenger legroom. A new feature for 2007, the seatbacks have a 40/20/40 split design to allow for center (or side) pass-through of long items. :D

[98AccordEx]

07 Instrument panel
http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_19.gif
http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_19.gif[/img]

[YummyPork]

Change the number before .gif and you can see more photos:

For example:

http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_17.gif
http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_17.gif

or

http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_08.gif
http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_08.gif

[98AccordEx]

More info on RealTime 4WD updates:

For 2007, enhancements have been made to the system for improved performance by optimizing materials and construction, resulting in 20 percent more torque transfer to the rear wheels


The Maintenance Minder system will indicate that the dual pump fluid should be changed at about 60,000 miles.

http://www.autodeadline.com/detail?source=Honda&mid=HON2006082451559&mime=ASC

[Dragonfly]

GROUND CLEARANCE 7.3 inches



yep - from the horse's mouth:

http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_18.gif

[mobortho]

What's this one?

http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_24.gif
http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_24.gif

[98AccordEx]

What's this one?
http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_24.gif

That's the dual deck cargo lid. Looks and sounds like a disappointing attempt at convenience. Picture is confusing, perhaps in real life it will make more sense.

On CR-V EX and EX-L models, a new dual deck cargo shelf system allows for two levels of storage in the rear cargo area. The shelf provides 13 inches (330 mm) of vertical space underneath - enough room for a collapsed stroller or similar item - while still retaining a convenient area to place smaller items on top (up to 20 pounds). The shelf is hinged at the front for easy access to items underneath. The cargo shelf can also be placed on the floor for conventional cargo area space utilization.

[Racoon]

Okay, so I'm still skeptical, but it looks like they've posted early release information.

And I'm still waiting for the official Honda release....but did you see these pictures??

:D

Designer On Drugs
http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_03.gif

Backup Camera
http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_23.gif

[98AccordEx]

Okay, so I'm still skeptical, but it looks like they've posted early release information.

And I'm still waiting for the official Honda release....but did you see these pictures??

:D

Designer On Drugs
http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_03.gif


Cool pictures, showing the design process. Somewhere along the line the front end got tweeked too much IMHO.

Still Skeptical??? Come on. Who has the time to create this many 'fake' press releases. It would take someone weeks to create all this and make it look and sound real. I must have looked at ten pages so far. I'm still looking forward to Sept. 1st for the high quality interior pictures to match up with all this info.

Looks like Christmas came a week early to me.

[bluewho25]

[
Cool pictures, showing the design process. Somewhere along the line the front end got tweeked too much IMHO.

Still Skeptical??? Come on. Who has the time to create this many 'fake' press releases. It would take someone weeks to create all this and make it look and sound real. I must have looked at ten pages so far. I'm still looking forward to Sept. 1st for the high quality interior pictures to match up with all this info.

Looks like Christmas came a week early to me.

Unless it comes from Honda it is hard to tell. It can be real info on that website, however that doesn't mean it comes from Honda.
It is very easy to post fake info on any website and, it won't take weeks.
Just create any domy fake page and hack into their web server and bingo. It will be much easier to break into a place like autoweek.com than Honda.com (more secure) but, it can be done.
I am a Network Engineer and especialize in security systems, so take my word for it.
This may be real info coming from Honda and leaked to autoweek.com but unless Honda verifies it, we'll have to wait.

So 98AccordEx, give it a rest. You did a good job by finding that info, it sure did help me.
By the way 98AccordEx, check out the spy picture on the new Diesel CRV, that is the real thing.

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopic.php?t=18278&sid=468e97fe3a4137905aab2dc395aa782d

El Guapo

[sleeksilver]

I hope that this is fake. Some of the info is good.


166hp is weaksauce to the max :?

[Dragonfly]

Backup Camera
http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_23.gif

Norwegian Backup Camera

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k88/dragonfly47/CRV-scream.jpg

[bing]

I think this is a case of someone posting information when they aren't suppose to. Perhaps we got the link to some back door where they were using those images for internal presentations.

For me, I believe the information there but it might be subject to change for the real vehicle when the press release goes live on Sep 1, 2006.

Stay tuned I guess. Thanks for the awesome pictures. If you haven't saved them, they might be gone forever!

Bing

[dicko]

The four banger is more than if enough with a manual transmission. Oh wait, the new 'V is slob-o-matic only. . . No sale for this consumer!

[mcbeevee]

I'm anxious to see the cloth seats and cd changer in the EX model. Every interior photo I've seen so far has been the top end EX-L with Navigation! :)

[tractorboy]

okay I give up...you've got my money Honda :lol:

[chiph]

The four banger is more than if enough with a manual transmission. Oh wait, the new 'V is slob-o-matic only. . . No sale for this consumer!
I noticed that -- a slushbox is the only transmission option.
:cry:

Given that it's an all-new model, coming from a all-new production line here in the US, I think I'll wait a couple of years before buying one. I could deal with an all-new engine (the diesel) if the rest of the car was solid, given Hondas legacy of excellent motors.

Chip H.

[bronxblaza117]

wats a conversation mirror?

[OSX2000]

GROUND CLEARANCE 7.3 inches



yep - from the horse's mouth:

http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_18.gif
1.3" down from what? The old CR-Vs? that would be 6.8" clearance, not 7.3".

[Dragonfly]

1.3" down from what? The old CR-Vs? that would be 6.8" clearance, not 7.3".

I think they've managed to lower the door sills 1.3". Combination of lowering the clearance and reengineering the floor pan, I'm guessin'.

[miko]

wats a conversation mirror?
You can ask the mirror question. "Mirror, mirror..................." you know the rest. :lol:

Actually it allows someone in the front seats to see people in the rear seats. Ford has been using these in their minivans for years.

[etc]

You can ask the mirror question. "Mirror, mirror..................." you know the rest.
:lol: that would be "vanity mirror"

I think they've managed to lower the door sills 1.3".
my thoughts exactly - if it was about the ground clearance - why show two arrows on the sills?

[blueiedgod]

I think Honda has missed the mark if the 2007 CRV only has 166 HP
All the competition have V6 200 hp or more engine options.

What do you need 200 hp for? :wink:

I'm going to go with the idea that this is a leaked press release. Someone provisioned it up on their web site and didn't hide it well enough... happens all the time with other products.

Looks good.

Because 166 Hp is a dog
try going up a mountain highway with less?
My friend has a Toyota Highlander, and I compared that with my 2003 CRV
What a difference - the 220 hp Highlander cruised up 80 mph without downshifting.


Maybe the driver is at fault here. I have 2005 CR-V, had a 2001 CR-V both wer fine climbing 12% incline for 3 miles at 80 mph. It is called "downshifting" I kind of like the idea that I drive an SUV and get 30 mpg on the regular basis. Some people like to compensate with HP, IMHO.

I bet you, your bud's Highlander cost more than $20,500 I pid for mine.

Would I buy the new CR-V, heck no. No tbecause of the 166 HP, but because of the lack of manual tranny.

[Robert]

GROUND CLEARANCE 7.3 inches



yep - from the horse's mouth:

http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_18.gif
1.3" down from what? The old CR-Vs? that would be 6.8" clearance, not 7.3".

Good point. I didn't catch that at first. It would be under 7" ground clearance if it is true that it has been reduced by 1.3".

[98AccordEx]

GROUND CLEARANCE 7.3 inches



yep - from the horse's mouth:

http://hondanews.com/media_storage/GIF/07CrvLine_18.gif
1.3" down from what? The old CR-Vs? that would be 6.8" clearance, not 7.3".

Good point. I didn't catch that at first. It would be under 7" ground clearance if it is true that it has been reduced by 1.3".

Two bits of information here.
Step-in height (height driver needs to lift his/her foot to get in the vehicle)has been reduced by 1.3inches.

Ground Clearance (max height of object that can pass under the car with out damaging the underside of the vehicle) is now 7.3inches, it was 8.1inches.

The two are not related, each was posted seperately.

[chiph]

One of the things that the high door sills do is provide body strength. I wonder what part of the chassis they beefed up to replace this weakness?

Chip H.

[ccacp89103]

Here is the conversation mirror from the Pilot

[liam51]

I think Honda has missed the mark if the 2007 CRV only has 166 HP
All the competition have V6 200 hp or more engine options.

What do you need 200 hp for? :wink:

I'm going to go with the idea that this is a leaked press release. Someone provisioned it up on their web site and didn't hide it well enough... happens all the time with other products.

Looks good.

What do we need 200 HP for????
How about being able to tow more than a 1500 lb. trailer? The new Rav4 will tow a 3500 lb. trailer. I think Honda is falling behind its competition for sure! Dont say, "Go buy a Pilot for towing", because I want more than 22 MPG. The Rav4 with a 6 cyl. is rated 28 MPG. Thats pretty impressive to me.

[jswift2000]

I doubt the pilot would even come to close to 22mpg in mixed driving. Our MDX just makes it 18mpg in mixed driving and thats the main reason we're looking at selling it...

I know people are complaing about the HP but I think Honda had to choose a route to take and they chose higher MPG. This, imho, is a smrt move - with rising gas prices, honda has poised itself pretty well for the future.

Now, if there was a Accord Wagon that would get 34mpg... :lol:

[liam51]

I doubt the pilot would even come to close to 22mpg in mixed driving. Our MDX just makes it 18mpg in mixed driving and thats the main reason we're looking at selling it...

I know people are complaing about the HP but I think Honda had to choose a route to take and they chose higher MPG. This, imho, is a smrt move - with rising gas prices, honda has poised itself pretty well for the future.

Now, if there was a Accord Wagon that would get 34mpg... :lol:

Yes, I agree, however, if Toyota has a CRV sized SUV, (Rav4), with a 6 cyl. that gets 28 MPG, I feel the CRV falls way short of its major competition, dont you? I'm just in the market to replace my 02' CRV and just a bit miffed at Honda for not offering me a sensible replacement. I own a boat and trailer which weighs 2000 lbs, which kinda makes me look elsewhere for a tow vehicle that gets good MPG...Rav4 I guess? :?

[jswift2000]

True... But Honda also needs to keep costs down and they dont want a V6 CRV encroaching on Pilot territory. It also could have been trying to squeeze a V6 in there, not making it "faster" than the RDX, etc. Only Honda knows...

I'm sure they thought about people who tow and figured it would be worth the gamble to lose them as customers. Stupid move to potentially lose customers to their #1 competitor (RAV 4) in this segment...

[liam51]

I'd be willing to bet that a 2007 CRV with a 4 cyl. will cost just about the same as a RAV4 with a 6 cyl. Time will tell, I guess. Who knows, maybe with the new whopping 166 HP :lol: CRV, Honda will also offer a towing package a wee bit heavier????

[mcbeevee]

The Rav4 with a 6 cyl. is rated 28 MPG. Thats pretty impressive to me.
I seriously doubt the 6 cyl RAV4 will get 28mpg, outside of flat interstate driving at 55mph! Check out the observed mpg from Car and Driver's test of the V6 RAV4 in January. I think 18-23mpg would be more realistic. :o

PROJECTED FUEL ECONOMY
EPA city driving: 20 mpg
EPA highway driving: 27 mpg
C/D-observed: 16 mpg

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/10394/toyota-rav4-limited-4wd-v-6-page3.html

[mcbeevee]

I'd be willing to bet that a 2007 CRV with a 4 cyl. will cost just about the same as a RAV4 with a 6 cyl. Time will tell, I guess. Who knows, maybe with the new whopping 166 HP :lol: CRV, Honda will also offer a towing package a wee bit heavier????
The CR-V can't be all things to all people. Apparently, Honda chose to go with more luxury/sport than utility on the '07 model. It sounds like you are already sold on the RAV4, anyway. :)

[liam51]

Perhaps so.... How did the Honda CRV do in these same tests? I bet not much better. I know, under ideal conditions, I get 27 mpg on the hiway with my 02' CRV. I bet the RAV4 wouldnt be much different. Just having the added towing capacity and get-up and go, would be worth dropping a mile or two in MPG.

[liam51]

I'd be willing to bet that a 2007 CRV with a 4 cyl. will cost just about the same as a RAV4 with a 6 cyl. Time will tell, I guess. Who knows, maybe with the new whopping 166 HP :lol: CRV, Honda will also offer a towing package a wee bit heavier????
The CR-V can't be all things to all people. Apparently, Honda chose to go with more luxury/sport than utility on the '07 model. It sounds like you are already sold on the RAV4, anyway. :)

Actually, I'm not sold yet on the RAV4. As I mentioned earlier, I'm a little disappointed that Handa didnt continue to compete with its Toyota competition, because I would much rather own another Honda CRV, believe me.....

[tractorboy]

I want more than 22 MPG. The Rav4 with a 6 cyl. is rated 28 MPG. Thats pretty impressive to me.


Boy do you guys need diesel or what....over here you can easily get 170ch (125Kw)...350Nm of torque at 2000rpm and 50mpg on the best diesel engines (VW group)...I'm just hoping the new CRV diesel continues in this vain 8)

[mcbeevee]

Perhaps so.... How did the Honda CRV do in these same tests? I bet not much better. I know, under ideal conditions, I get 27 mpg on the hiway with my 02' CRV. I bet the RAV4 wouldnt be much different. Just having the added towing capacity and get-up and go, would be worth dropping a mile or two in MPG.

Edmunds has a "real world" observed 22mpg for a 2002 CR-V. I think the towing capacity is like the manual tranny's that are not available in the '07 model...Honda is just catering to 90+% of the CR-V buyers. :)

[blueiedgod]

1. You won't be getting 28 mpg while towing.
2. In real world Rav4 V6 does not get 28 mpg.
3. In real world RAV4 V6 probably gets 18 mpg in city driving.
4. I get 26 mpg in City driving in my 2005 EX 5MAN.
5. I can get 30 mpg highway in my 2005 EX 5MAN.

If one tows 3500 lbs on the regular basis, RAV4 is probably not the bext choice either. I would say a pick up truck, or any frame on truck is probably better.

If one tows 3500 lbs on occasion, it would be much cheaper to rent a truck when needed, or just buy a beater with a heater truck. With the rising gas prices, turcks are getting cheaper by the minute.

[Racoon]

Perhaps so.... How did the Honda CRV do in these same tests? I bet not much better. I know, under ideal conditions, I get 27 mpg on the hiway with my 02' CRV. I bet the RAV4 wouldnt be much different. Just having the added towing capacity and get-up and go, would be worth dropping a mile or two in MPG.
A comment on the trailer weight ratings for the RAV4.

4 cylinder - 1,500 lbs
V6 - 2,000 lbs
V6 with Tow Prep Package - 3,500 lbs

Tow Prep Package: upgraded radiator, fan coupling, and alternator (doesn't include tow hitch)

I only see the Tow Prep Package as part of a package with some other upgrades for $560. The Toyota trailer hitch is $820.

A 2007 RAV4 V6 Base 4x4 with tow prep package and trailer hitch lists for $26,270 according to toyota.com's "build and price" tool.

A 2006 CR-V LX RT4WD with trailer hitch lists for $22,842 using the automobiles.honda.com "build and price" tool.

I am guessing that the increase in price for the 2007 CR-V is going to be $600-$700, not the $3,428 difference noted above.

But that's JM2C

[TMQ]

This is definitely the correct information, and yes, another leak by the press (like the one for '07 Acura TL). Fake posts won't bother with such detail and research the awards won by previous CR-Vs.

I don't need a new car anytime soon, but if I have about $25K to spend on a SUV, this will definitely be the one.
- HP is sufficient. I use my '02 to go to the Cascades mountains often and never have a problem. There's no need to engage in the HP battle.
- Ground clearance: shouldn't make too much of a difference for 99% of the users.
- Even LX has VSA. Gen3 will handle a lot better than Gen2 on the pavement.

My complaint:
- Front grille design.
- Front grille design.
- Navigation option: why can't you have it with EX models? (seems only EX-L can get it.)

[98AccordEx]

OK Racoon, so how about now? It's Sept. 1st, can you finally acknowledge this was a leaked press release instead of rumor, speculation, etc.?

[Racoon]

OK Racoon, so how about now? It's Sept. 1st, can you finally acknowledge this was a leaked press release instead of rumor, speculation, etc.?
I have no idea what you're talking about.

:mrgreen:

[98AccordEx]

OK Racoon, so how about now? It's Sept. 1st, can you finally acknowledge this was a leaked press release instead of rumor, speculation, etc.?
I have no idea what you're talking about.

:mrgreen:

Exactly, thanks :lol:

p.s. I heard for the MMC it will have a revised front grill, just kidding or just hoping?

[hooolala]

1. You won't be getting 28 mpg while towing.
2. In real world Rav4 V6 does not get 28 mpg.
3. In real world RAV4 V6 probably gets 18 mpg in city driving.
4. I get 26 mpg in City driving in my 2005 EX 5MAN.
5. I can get 30 mpg highway in my 2005 EX 5MAN.

If one tows 3500 lbs on the regular basis, RAV4 is probably not the bext choice either. I would say a pick up truck, or any frame on truck is probably better.

If one tows 3500 lbs on occasion, it would be much cheaper to rent a truck when needed, or just buy a beater with a heater truck. With the rising gas prices, turcks are getting cheaper by the minute.

well... i have a 06 RAV4 Limited V6 4WD with 15000miles on it, and here is the avarage MPG numbers i got:

100% hwy = 26mpg
50%hwy/50% local = 23mpg
100% local = 20mpg..

btw.. i got about 25mpg when i moved from SF CA to Houston TX with 3000lbs Corolla towing in the back..

http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/tow02.jpg

[WestTexan]

1. You won't be getting 28 mpg while towing.
2. In real world Rav4 V6 does not get 28 mpg.
3. In real world RAV4 V6 probably gets 18 mpg in city driving.
4. I get 26 mpg in City driving in my 2005 EX 5MAN.
5. I can get 30 mpg highway in my 2005 EX 5MAN.

If one tows 3500 lbs on the regular basis, RAV4 is probably not the bext choice either. I would say a pick up truck, or any frame on truck is probably better.

If one tows 3500 lbs on occasion, it would be much cheaper to rent a truck when needed, or just buy a beater with a heater truck. With the rising gas prices, turcks are getting cheaper by the minute.

well... i have a 06 RAV4 Limited V6 4WD with 15000miles on it, and here is the avarage MPG numbers i got:

100% hwy = 26mpg
50%hwy/50% local = 23mpg
100% local = 20mpg..

btw.. i got about 25mpg when i moved from SF CA to Houston TX with 3000lbs Corolla towing in the back..

http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/tow02.jpg

hoo,
thanks for the info, but why are you in a Honda forum? are u thinking of switching?

[hooolala]

i was on the forum looking at the pilot informations before i decide which SUV to go with..

i like pretty much on the pilot (including the price), but it's alittle bit too big for me. i want something smaller, quicker, and with 3rd seat.. after searching through all the Small SUVs, the only thing that matchs my needs is the RAV4. :)

[Dragonfly]

i was on the forum looking at the pilot informations before i decide which SUV to go with..

i like pretty much on the pilot (including the price), but it's alittle bit too big for me. i want something smaller, quicker, and with 3rd seat.. after searching through all the Small SUVs, the only thing that matchs my needs is the RAV4. :)

That's confusing. You're deciding on a SECOND SUV? From your post above, it looks like you already own an '06 RAV.

[hooolala]

i was on the forum looking at the pilot informations before i decide which SUV to go with..

i like pretty much on the pilot (including the price), but it's alittle bit too big for me. i want something smaller, quicker, and with 3rd seat.. after searching through all the Small SUVs, the only thing that matchs my needs is the RAV4. :)

That's confusing. You're deciding on a SECOND SUV? From your post above, it looks like you already own an '06 RAV.

no.. i bought the RAV4 about 4 month ago, and before i bought my RAV4, i was on this site looking at the pilot informations.. :)

[Dragonfly]

no.. i bought the RAV4 about 4 month ago, and before i bought my RAV4, i was on this site looking at the pilot informations.. :)

Ooooh. Since you just signed up today, I thought maybe you were new here and looking for Honda info.

[hooolala]

no.. i bought the RAV4 about 4 month ago, and before i bought my RAV4, i was on this site looking at the pilot informations.. :)

Ooooh. Since you just signed up today, I thought maybe you were new here and looking for Honda info.

:).. no.. i have been on this site for about few month now... i'm just too lazy to sign up :P

[Robert]

i want something smaller, quicker, and with 3rd seat.. after searching through all the Small SUVs, the only thing that matchs my needs is the RAV4. :)

I kind of like the RAV4 as well. A few questions. What other options do you have and what did you pay for yours? Thanks very much for your input and info.

[hooolala]

i want something smaller, quicker, and with 3rd seat.. after searching through all the Small SUVs, the only thing that matchs my needs is the RAV4. :)

I kind of like the RAV4 as well. A few questions. What other options do you have and what did you pay for yours? Thanks very much for your input and info.

:)

here is the specs, pictures, and videos of my RAV4

the price was $28,000 (i know is kinda expansive :P)

- 2GR-FE engine VVTi with 269hp and 246 Torque
- four wheel drive and 5 speed automatic
- third row seat, can seat up to 7 people in this car
- dual automatic climate control
- 6 disc CD changer with DVD Entertainment system and 9 JBL speaker/subs
- towing package (larger fan, and alternator)
- 17" wheels..
- ABS, tracking control, Hill Start/Descent Control, front and side air bag.

two acceleration videos (please download it first before watch)
http://www.lshealthstore.com/videos/b01.MPG
http://www.lshealthstore.com/videos/b02.MPG


1) My new RAV6 V6 Limited 4wd with 3rd row seat.. and my 04 Supercharged Corolla
http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/01.jpg

2) Rear View of the car (it says.. RAV4 4x4)
http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/02.jpg

3) love this part... V6 grille (269hp V6 engine)
http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/03.jpg

4) Factory DVD Entertainment system
http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/04.jpg

5) RCA Jack with 110v plug (for my game club and PS)
http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/05.jpg

6) Factory Wireless headphone and remote for the DVD
http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/06.jpg

7) front panel with my GPS (dual automatic climate control)
http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/07.jpg

8) 106 miles (after driving 100 miles back from San Francisco)
http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/08.jpg

9) 3rd row seat (one fold down, and one up, second row can fold down flat as well)
http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/09.jpg

10) 2GR-FE V6 269hp 246Turque (same engine as Avalon, 07 Camry V6, IS350 (IS has dual direct fuel injection system that other don't have), RX350 and the new ES350)
http://www.littlesylvia.com/rav4/10.jpg[/b]

[98AccordEx]

Looks alright... not my favorite color combination, for me silver and gray on the inside wash into each other instead of one contrasting the other, nothing stands out. What's the steering wheel angle like, seems too flat(minivan) versus upright (car). Maybe it's the pictures I did see one in person at the autoshow and I didn't have this impression then.