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bluewho25
07-14-2006, 01:02 PM
Excellent story. Check out this guy who got hire by Edmunds.com to go undercover and write a story about it. He worked about three months in different car dealerships.
It shows you all the dirty tricks that car salesmen use on today's market so they can rob your mother, your sister, your old man and you!
Yeah, this is it. This is how salesman earned their reputation.

Please read the story, learn and pass the info on everybody that you know so we can stop this crap.

After you read this article let us know what you think.

Thanks,

EL GUAPO

bluewho25
07-14-2006, 01:03 PM
AND HERE IS THE LINK GUYS:


http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html

kev.
07-14-2006, 04:57 PM
Its a good article, but hardly new. I read it more than 4 years ago. I'm suprised Edmunds still has it on the site.

miko
07-14-2006, 05:14 PM
I don't read those type of articles anymore. They're all the same. Someone sets out to write an 'expose'. That's what they get paid for. The objective is to find as much bad stuff as possible.

greyd
07-15-2006, 12:44 PM
I don't need to read that one. I sold new cars for a few years when I was in my early 20's. Don't have a desire to relive any of that except for the test drives!

gravity_hunter
07-15-2006, 06:45 PM
Thanks for posting this link. I really enjoyed reading the article!

sellnacura
07-16-2006, 04:03 PM
Don't believe everything you read. Not all car dealerships or sales consultant are shady. The business is changing on a daily basis. The buyer is getting more educated, and the sales process is getting more streamlined. Almost everything is full disclosure to the customer. In fact almost everything can be found out online with a little research. Invoice prices, interest rates, carfax history reports on used cars. Dealerships know all of this, the vehicle's manufacturer knows this as well. So the old stereotypical image of the "Car salesman" is slowly fading away into history.

yohbee2
07-16-2006, 07:17 PM
Dealerships know all of this, the vehicle's manufacturer knows this as well. So the old stereotypical image of the "Car salesman" is slowly fading away into history.

I agree. The guy I bought my V from didn't even try to argue with me. He was the guy my brother used for his last two cars because he didn't try to BS him with all the numbers. He knew that we were coming in to buy a specific car at a specific price and that I would just leave if I heard anything different. And he did not disappoint me. I was in and out of the dealership in about half an hour. :D

greyd
07-16-2006, 08:09 PM
I didn't read the article but what turned me off about selling cars was that management wanted salesmen to be a first line customer contact only. What I mean by that is they want the salesmen to 'act as a friend' to the customer and there is Zero negotiating done with and by the salesman. When he/she says I'll take your offer to my manager and push him he is really going down to flirt with a girl in the office or shoot the poop with someone else in the dealership. Salesmen can not close deals unless the customer accepts what is first offered. The dealership sends in a manager or experienced salesman to close the deal. I hated that part of it. In fact when I go to buy cars now I don't even get serious about the negotiating until the next rep is brought in. It's all a way for the dealership to have total control over the car sale and the salesmen have zero control over the sale and are just drones.

CRV440
07-16-2006, 09:25 PM
Thanks for the link. Good read. What's old to some, is new to me.

skyout
07-16-2006, 09:54 PM
I read a good portion of it but couldn't finish - just way too long. I enjoyed the part I did read though, maybe I'll finish it later. Thanks for the link.

bluewho25
07-17-2006, 08:53 AM
Well, let me add this to my personnal experience with cars.
I went from buying my first car ($500) to buying a 1998 Buick Regal GS ($16K) In the past 10 years I did spend so much money on cars that it will be rediculus to put a number on how much money I spend.

My point is that I purchased lots of cars from dealerships and I got rip off every single time (I din't know anything about cars and had no info on the Web like now days) I did read the article and I was able to identify with the story. When it comes to car salesmen, the minute that they see you coming in (Kachin in their heads) it is money time. Specially if you are a lady or an elder person. They ripp you off specially with the financing charges and they are so friendly at the beginning but if you tell them that you will shop around some more they just give you an attitude. They will sell you stuff that you don't even need.
Read the article, it got some excellent points. I was thinking that I knew so much about the car sales untill I did read the article about three monts ago.
I do have a family to support and I do understand that most car salesmen do too, and I have no problem with them making a living and making some money but don't be a freaking thief!
I started to get some good experience from Honda dealerships, but I found out that you always have to stay on guard. Specialy in the "trade in" they will kill you. The best way to to deal with those car salesmen is, to know of front that they will try to get the most money that they can possible can. Many people hate that part (dealing with the car salesman) it is too stressful. Get yourself some info on a car that you like and don't hesitate to say NO! to a car salesman.
I am sure that there must be some honest salesman out there.
Let me add my last experience with dealerships, I am currently waiting for the new 2007 CRV to arrive, I need a SUV. So I went to my local Toyota Dealership and I ask the car salesman to see a 2006 RAV4 I4 Sport Edition, I told the guy that I was ready to buy the car at that moment, I told him that I drove the car already and I was ready to buy it. His price, full sticker price and he would not lower that price because he claimed "it is a RAV4" sure I said and I waived good bye.

Read the article and make your own mind. My opinion is that the only reason that you may not like the article mat be that you are or were a salesman!

bluewho25
07-17-2006, 09:12 AM
A GOOD WAY TO GET A DEAL WHEN BUYING A CAR.

What I been doing in the last two years (I did purchase four cars) is to deal with the Internet Managers via email only, no phone calls ( I make that clear in the initial email). I found the price on the vehicle and then deal with about four dealerships thru email only ofcourse, and whoever gives me the best deal gets the sell.
Car salesmen hate to see you walking in directly to the Internet Manager's office to handle a deal.
This I have found to be the best way to buy a new or used car.
I do realized that most of the members here know a lot a bout cars but ask your friends or your family, they don't know much.
I got a deal for my friend in FL, I got a 2006 CRV EX White color for $21K incluiding paper work and delivery fees (Except taxes) I made about 10 phone calls to her local dealerships and got the best deal. Before that, her best deal was $24,200. I got her that deal with me being in Colorado and she being in FL, thank God for the Web and phones.
I love to deal with car salesman now, I love to give them a little taste of their own medicine.

mchilli
07-18-2006, 01:34 PM
Check out "King of Cars" on A&E on Tuesday nights at 10pm. You'll get a look inside a car dealership!