new 2007 CR-V pictures

[SandroF1]

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=567791

Looks like the Jap mag that drew the sketch was bang on!

[chadwick]

Interesting....

[Racoon]

Ugly. If that's really the 3rd Gen CR-V I'll cross my fingers and hope my 1st Gen lasts until the 4th Gen is out (and that the 4th Gen looks better than that).

:(

[bumpzter]

Can't really tell about details but I'm jumping for joy that they actually fixed the rear. Means that I may not have to change brands after all. I usually don't like buying brand new models, but this may be an exception. :wink:

[chinchillax]

Ugly. If that's really the 3rd Gen CR-V I'll cross my fingers and hope my 1st Gen lasts until the 4th Gen is out (and that the 4th Gen looks better than that).

:(

I agree, they ruined an otherwise nice vehicle, but we didn't like the Gen 2 either. :(

Now it looks more like a Chrysler Pacifica, Nissan Murano, or any other wagon. Looks like now the RAV4 will have the upper edge!

We won't be getting rid of our Gen 1 anytime soon, were planning on keeping it for another 7-9 years.

[Goonga Ron]

I thought the second gen was ugly. If that is the third gen, it's even uglier than the 2nd gen! :-)

I'm looking to pass my 1st gen down to my son next year and upgrade but if that's the way the CR-V will look, I'll go with the Pilot. Gotta stay in the Honda fam!

[bing]

I think Honda definitely went more sporty with the 3rd gen V. The sweeping roof line would reduce space and I have a feeling the spare tire is probably going to reside in the side rear panel. The table might still be present but smaller. It'll all speculation and we'll just have to wait till Sep 1 for the release.

Bing

[etc]

wow its so close to the early spy sketches! anything to say racoon? :lol:
i like it - it will surely be a smash hit in europe and asia

[mrtn]

i just figured out what's that CR-V vs Mazda5 thing is all about...

[etc]

and i wonder why they insist on calling it cr-v - its an obvious descendant of the hr-v :P
i mean look at the grille, the front bumper, the rear door, the ground clearence :twisted:
thats the hr-v 2007 :idea:
and the cr-v got discontinued :lol:

[bumpzter]

I have a feeling the spare tire is probably going to reside in the side rear panel. It'll all speculation and we'll just have to wait till Sep 1 for the release.
I bet it won't, bing. I'll be under the floor. (Where it belongs. :wink: )

[Racoon]

wow its so close to the early spy sketches! anything to say racoon? :lol:
It's ALL rumors, speculation, and wishful thinking until Honda makes an official announcement.

;)

But I have to admit, it's starting to look like that'll be the next CR-V (unfortunately).

:(

[Drive Fa$t]

Ugly. If that's really the 3rd Gen CR-V I'll cross my fingers and hope my 1st Gen lasts until the 4th Gen is out (and that the 4th Gen looks better than that).

:(

Amen to that. That thing doesn't keep with the classic CR-V look.

[sleeksilver]

At least it's got the wheels that I liked from the first pictures of the new CRV that I saw. I'll have to see it with all that damn plastic wrap off, but it could potentially not be that bad? Am I the only one saying this???

I just pray that it has more that 170HP. I'm hoping more for 180-200 but I don't think we'll see that :(

[Robert]

First off, hey there, Ron! Haven't heard from you in a while. Secondly, it seems to me from what I can make out of the pics that they have kept the same headlights from the '05-'06. It also seems to look more like a Chevy Equinox type vehicle than a CR-V. It certainly does resemble the new RDX, at least in the front. My two biggest complaints are the sloping rear roof and lack of spare on the rear. I just like the classic look much more. I think it will sell quite well because Honda typically knows how to sell to the masses, with the possible exception of the Ridgeline.

[bluewho25]

I AM A BIT, NO, REALLY CONFUSED NOW ABOUT THE SIZE OF IT.
LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
FOR ALL THE GUYS OUT THERE WAITING FOR THE NEW HONDA CR-V.
I GOT SOME GREAT INFO ON WHAT THE NEW 2007 HONDA CRV WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN IT GOES ON SALE IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
HERE ARE THE DIMENSIONS FOLLOW BY THE LINK OF THE CAR:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/ciwai/07crv_01.jpg

"The 2007 CR-V Front End has 2 Grills and a third air intake Grill below the bumper. The Top Grill is part of the Hood and incorporates the Honda 'H' Emblem. The Middle Grill is just below the Hood Overhang and is the Largest of the 3. It actually looks like a smile or grin with two thin horizontal chome fins inside it! The bottom grill is just your basic black plastic air intake setup. The 2007 CR-V has a 104.3 in. wheelbase, up 1 inch from 2006. The cargo hold, with the back seats folded flat, is down to 61 cubic feet vs. 72 cubic feet in the 2006! Minimum Ground Clearance is also down to 5.12 inches vs. 8.1 inches in the 2006! The roof line is also lower 1.5 inches less at it's highest point up front and 3.4 inches lower in the rear compared to the 2006! The Interior will be upgraded, though, compared to the 2006! Overall the lower chasis will translate to a better handling vehilcle with a sportier feel and smoother ride! A DVD and Navigation setup will be offered in upscale models! I hope this info will help you until the official release date comes along, just a little over 2 months"


Another bit of info on the above statement, The Plastic Grill just below the Hood Overhang that resembles a smile may incorporate 3 horizontal fins 'BLACKENED OUT' on lower models or on all final production models, depending on final management decisions"


THE NEW CRV IS BEIN BUILT IN LIBERTY, OH.

I am waiting for the new CR-V, I just road tested the new RAV4 from Toyota and it rides nice, I like the handling more than anything and the fact that it is bigger (it means a lot to me since my family will be riding in it) but the inside it is really cheap loking. The clock and design its so ugly, not appealing at all, and the seats (cloth)the colors are really bad and, TOYOTA still charges you extra for the goddamm Curtains Air Bags. I think it is rediculus that you have to pay extra for safety. That is one of the reasons I am waiting for the CR-V, I got a feeling that the inside will look a lot like the current Civic (I like it more than the RAV4)and the Air Bags are all standard.

I HOPE THIS INFO CAN HELP

[Racoon]

That picture is photochopped.
Notice the red dots in the lower left corner that were part of the original picture from Temple of VTEC?
And the yellow fill in some of the letters in the lower right?
And the wrinkles around the squares on the (now) grey bumper, and various other places that were masked in the original?

Your picture:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/ciwai/07crv_01.jpg

The Templ of VTEC picture is attached below.

Nice try, though.

The information about the 2007 CR-V being built in Ohio is old news. Honda announced that a year or so ago.

:)

[AoS]

Minimum Ground Clearance is also down to 5.12 inches vs. 8.1 inches in the 2006!
Where did you get that information from?

5.1 inches of ground clearance for a SUV is ridiculous ...

[98AccordEx]

Hey Bluewho aren't those the specs for the RDX? Are you sure you're not confusing the two, they share the same platform but not necessarily the same specifications. :?:

[Rich]

Based on everything I've seen so far, I'm thinking they should leave the camo on the production model; might help sales. :D

[liquidfuel88]

boy am i glad i've got a 1st gen. :mrgreen:

if that really is the 3rd gen V, I.................. :cry:

[OSX2000]

Gen-1...the first, and the best.

[JustinTime]

Jesus! So after all, looks like this was in fact spot on as far as the front and double grill... HIDEOUS!!!!!! OMG!

[JustinTime]

For some reason, this 3rd gen design is reminding me of the AZTEC. Which is of course the wordl's ugliest production vehicle. Now with a new contender!

[toddaroo]

I posted the question a month ago, about the RDX and CRV becoming more alike. Why would Honda NOT want to make their system more streamlined for parts?

The concept and test cars usually get some mods before release, lets hope they change that grill. I bet they won't though. Honda seems to be determined to have it's truck line look like transformers,(the toys), to me and this year the CRV-Gets it! I will bet that by the time this thing get out on the market there will be more fans than resistance from the model. Everyone here sounded alot like this when the first gen ended and the second gen began, but look at everyone now. It's all good, give it some time, there will be changes before it is released,(hopfully for the better, non-transformer designs).

[PROYOJON]

I Dont know what to say..but I know that I don't like Honda's new Models sometimes. Remember the great look of civic thay made 96-2000? Even when I see 96 shiny Civic coupe on my neighbor's drive way sometimes I surprised that its a 10 Yr old model and looks pretty damn good with all the 2006 models.

This 2007 CR-V? It looks like a version of Mini Van..or a Bigger Matrix? I dont Know...

[sleeksilver]

Why would Honda NOT want to make their system more streamlined for parts?


I don't understand what you are saying here. :?

They must differentiate the two (RDX/CR-V) or noone would buy the RDX. Seriously who would buy a $35,000 RDX that essentially looks and performs like the CRV. The upscale model needs these added features to set it apart from the lower line CRV.


I really don't mind the look of the new CRV at all. I really like the wheels a lot, and it looks great in white. What I don't like is all the RUMORS that it's going to be so much lower to the ground :( 5.1 inches sounds like a mistake but it's still going to have reduced ground clearance and reduced ground clearance = less capable CRV.

[looksha]

The looks I don't mind, but if it's truly going down to 5.1 inches and removing the tire off the back, it's not an SUV anymore (my opinion), it's like a hopped up FIT :lol: Makes me almost want to get rid of my 2nd Gen, but I like it to much and it's paid off. If they are going make as SUV make it an SUV not a short station wagon. Crap! Crap! Crap!

Maybe they will increase the ground clearance on the Element and it give it an upgraded 4wd system like on the ridge or pilot.

[toddaroo]

[quote=toddaroo] Why would Honda NOT want to make their system more streamlined for parts?


I don't understand what you are saying here. :?

Of course fatures sell cars in different clases, and I agree that the RDX will exceed the CRV in features. It better!

What I'm trying to get at is most of the upper end models, Nissan Murano, and the Ininity FX are cut from the same design. This is comonplace and a terrific mony savings for the manufacturer! Why make 2 completely different layouts for carpet kits? Why make 2 completely different fender molds? Why make 2 completely different front and rear seat designs? All of these points may not be exactly the item that they are in their sister vehichle, but the designs do not need MAJOR modifications to create the same product with ever so slightly different materials!

Maybe I am missing the issue that people really don't know that there are two vehichles that are nearly the same in most manufacturers. Honda has NOT done this in the past to the extent that Ford, Chevy, Nissan, and Toyota have. This has got to be a financial move on Hondas behalf!

[sleeksilver]

[quote=toddaroo] Why would Honda NOT want to make their system more streamlined for parts?


I don't understand what you are saying here. :?

Of course fatures sell cars in different clases, and I agree that the RDX will exceed the CRV in features. It better!

What I'm trying to get at is most of the upper end models, Nissan Murano, and the Ininity FX are cut from the same design. This is comonplace and a terrific mony savings for the manufacturer! Why make 2 completely different layouts for carpet kits? Why make 2 completely different fender molds? Why make 2 completely different front and rear seat designs? All of these points may not be exactly the item that they are in their sister vehichle, but the designs do not need MAJOR modifications to create the same product with ever so slightly different materials!

Maybe I am missing the issue that people really don't know that there are two vehichles that are nearly the same in most manufacturers. Honda has NOT done this in the past to the extent that Ford, Chevy, Nissan, and Toyota have. This has got to be a financial move on Hondas behalf!

??? I still don't completely understand. Do you mean the CRV and RDX are going to be completely different cars with completely different systems? Honda has been doing it ever since Acura was introduced.

Honda/Acura Integra
Honda Pilot AND Honda MDX= Acura MDX
Honda Euro Accord= Acura TSX
Honda Inspire= Acura TL
Honda Legend= Acura Legend and RL

I still don't get it. :(

[Racoon]

My opinion? (and it's just an opinion until Honda releases information about the 2007 CR-V).

The RDX and CR-V are going to be quite different.

They will share a basic platform, and there will be some general similarities, but the CR-V will not get the turbo charged engine and there will be differences in body style.

My reasoning - compare the Pilot and MDX, which share the same "platform" as the Odyssey.

JM2C

[bumpzter]

Of course. Racoon is right. As always. :)

[corey415]

Maybe I am the minority here, but I actually am looking forward to the new design. We have an 05 CR-V SE at home too, which I think is somewhat bland with regards to design.

[mrtn]

Maybe I am the minority here, but I actually am looking forward to the new design. We have an 05 CR-V SE at home too, which I think is somewhat bland with regards to design.

yes you are :D

still, i'm with you regarding CR-V design regardless the generation, whereas the Element is definitely in HR-V class in funkyness category.

[bumpzter]

Maybe I am the minority here, but I actually am looking forward to the new design.
No. You are not. I can't wait to see the real thing. :D

[estevesm]

Well, I may be the only one who thinks that but I think gen 2 looks way better than gen 1 (one reason I didn't buy a gen 1). But gen 3 looks like a tribeca... weird...

[Racoon]

Maybe I am the minority here, but I actually am looking forward to the new design.
No. You are not. I can't wait to see the real thing. :D
Well, I can hardly wait to see it too!

That doesn't mean you'll ever see one parked in my garage if it looks like those pictures.

:D

[PROYOJON]

That doesn't mean you'll ever see one parked in my garage if it looks like those pictures.

:D

Haa Haa Haa!!! I'm laughing damn loud after a busy week + day. Thanks Racoon!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[toddaroo]

[quote=toddaroo] Why would Honda NOT want to make their system more streamlined for parts?


I don't understand what you are saying here. :?

Of course fatures sell cars in different clases, and I agree that the RDX will exceed the CRV in features. It better!

What I'm trying to get at is most of the upper end models, Nissan Murano, and the Ininity FX are cut from the same design. This is comonplace and a terrific mony savings for the manufacturer! Why make 2 completely different layouts for carpet kits? Why make 2 completely different fender molds? Why make 2 completely different front and rear seat designs? All of these points may not be exactly the item that they are in their sister vehichle, but the designs do not need MAJOR modifications to create the same product with ever so slightly different materials!

Maybe I am missing the issue that people really don't know that there are two vehichles that are nearly the same in most manufacturers. Honda has NOT done this in the past to the extent that Ford, Chevy, Nissan, and Toyota have. This has got to be a financial move on Hondas behalf!

??? I still don't completely understand. Do you mean the CRV and RDX are going to be completely different cars with completely different systems? Honda has been doing it ever since Acura was introduced.

Honda/Acura Integra
Honda Pilot AND Honda MDX= Acura MDX
Honda Euro Accord= Acura TSX
Honda Inspire= Acura TL
Honda Legend= Acura Legend and RL

I still don't get it. :(

Why are you trying to make this difficult? The CRV and RDX
WILL BE "CUT FROM THE SAME DESIGN" So NO they won't be very different when you look at chassis, and layout.

How's that?

What are you comparing the Integra to?
Pilot i more like the Odessy frame and less like the RDX.
Euro Accord and Acura TSX I don't know, I only look at what is available here.
I don't even know what a Honda Inspire is, and the Legend is an Acura product, and never branded by Honda as well as the RL

Honda has LESS history doing this cross breeding than MOST other companies. That's it, that's my point.

There seems to be resistance to this idea among enthusiasts of their favorite particular brand of whatever. Some people feel cheated I suppose.

[Tucats]

Hi guys (and gals); Tis been awhile, but thought I would say hello and mention that I don't like that front end. And not too sure if I can get my 12ft boards in the back if they shorten it either. Will have to wait and see...however, the 03's not paid for yet.. so will drive it for a few more years. Might have to look to Suburu next time round. Cheers

[barbecuesauce99]

Why are they carrying the trailer for test car? Those two guys sleep there?
:lol:
Here is another link for same pictures and more news.
http://www.autobytel.com/content/shared/articles/templates/index.cfm/article_page_order_int/1/article_id_int/1523

There has always been OEM hood protector for V or is it something new?
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/honda_crv_accessories/2007_crv_exterior.htm

[skyout]

The lack of concern about my input from Honda really bothers me. No one there called and asked if it was OK to reduce ground clearance. :D Heck, I thought I was family. 2 inches of clearance is a lot to lose. JMO

[Racoon]

The lack of concern about my input from Honda really bothers me. No one there called and asked if it was OK to reduce ground clearance. Heck, I thought I was family. 2 inches of clearance is a lot to lose. JMO
LOL

:lol:

[ukrkoz]

what a cutting edge design! what a difference! and it will even have 170 ponies under the hood! what a power!

i am so sarcastic it made my hyperacidic. so they licked it a ted and smoothed it here and there. and all they could fork for is mindboggling upgrade of 6 hp. what a laim change. and that's when toyota dumped on the market that 269 hp monster. funniest thing is that in one post it's already proclaimed to be the best bet on the market in europe and asia. why? maybe in areas where they do not sell rav4.

now, on the serious mode, i think honda slipped a lot on this 3rd gen. nolense volense, usa is the largest auto market in the world. car manufacturers custom tailor, for the last years, heavily beefed up vehicles, cut for this market. look at murano. virtually any other manufacturer puts on the market upgraded and re-upgraded cars. it all moved from 150 hp range into 200 hp range then into 300 hp range. what honda does - oh, we are so creative with a 170 engine! yayks. that's for the car that barely moves 4 adults in it with current engine and everyone was griping about engine lacking power since gen1/gen2 day 1.

[sleeksilver]

[quote=toddaroo] Why would Honda NOT want to make their system more streamlined for parts?


I don't understand what you are saying here. :?

Of course fatures sell cars in different clases, and I agree that the RDX will exceed the CRV in features. It better!

What I'm trying to get at is most of the upper end models, Nissan Murano, and the Ininity FX are cut from the same design. This is comonplace and a terrific mony savings for the manufacturer! Why make 2 completely different layouts for carpet kits? Why make 2 completely different fender molds? Why make 2 completely different front and rear seat designs? All of these points may not be exactly the item that they are in their sister vehichle, but the designs do not need MAJOR modifications to create the same product with ever so slightly different materials!

Maybe I am missing the issue that people really don't know that there are two vehichles that are nearly the same in most manufacturers. Honda has NOT done this in the past to the extent that Ford, Chevy, Nissan, and Toyota have. This has got to be a financial move on Hondas behalf!

??? I still don't completely understand. Do you mean the CRV and RDX are going to be completely different cars with completely different systems? Honda has been doing it ever since Acura was introduced.

Honda/Acura Integra
Honda Pilot AND Honda MDX= Acura MDX
Honda Euro Accord= Acura TSX
Honda Inspire= Acura TL
Honda Legend= Acura Legend and RL

I still don't get it. :(

Why are you trying to make this difficult? The CRV and RDX
WILL BE "CUT FROM THE SAME DESIGN" So NO they won't be very different when you look at chassis, and layout.

How's that?

What are you comparing the Integra to?
Pilot i more like the Odessy frame and less like the RDX.
Euro Accord and Acura TSX I don't know, I only look at what is available here.
I don't even know what a Honda Inspire is, and the Legend is an Acura product, and never branded by Honda as well as the RL

Honda has LESS history doing this cross breeding than MOST other companies. That's it, that's my point.

There seems to be resistance to this idea among enthusiasts of their favorite particular brand of whatever. Some people feel cheated I suppose.

If you don't know anything about Honda in other countries what are you trying to argue. There is plenty of cross breeding (???) going on. They rebadge Hondas with a few minor tweaks and label them as Acuras here. The Inspire IS the TL in other countries. I wasn't comparing the Integra to anything, I'm showing you it wears an Acura badge here in the US and is also named the RSX, elsewhere it's still the Integra and wears a Honda badge. As far as I know the only true Acura designed car is the CL. I don't believe (I could be wrong) that it is/was sold anywhere off of this continent.
You couldn't be more wrong when you say the Legend is only badged as an Acura. The Legend is 100% a Honda product, and is still known as the Legend in other countries. Honda Legend= Acura RL www.honda.co.jp See
for yourself. :)

[bing]

The new TL isn't available in Japan because it's designed for the US market. The Inspire is the Accord from the USA. The MDX was designed for the US market and so is the RDX. In Japan, all vehicles are branded Honda, for now that is.

Now regarding chasis sharing, the CR-V and RDX are derived from the Civic where as the TL, Pilot, MDX, Odyssey, Ridgeline all came from a stretched Accord chasis. I think the TSX is unique but I may be wrong.


I think the RDX looks weird from some angles. The new V looks a little more sleek. None of those buldging fenders to make the car look complicated.

Can't wait to see the real deal though.

PS: Hey, has anyone seen the new Camry and ES 350? With the 2007 Camry looking the way it is, I want to buy one too!

[JustinTime]

Camry? Have you seen the stop lights? They made them all bulging, and they look like candy. Who came up with that concept? Looks like a cartoon!

EDIT" As Steve Jobs would say: "...you'll want to lick them" (Who the hell wants to lick a user interface?!)

[etc]

what a cutting edge design! what a difference! and it will even have 170 ponies under the hood! what a power!

i am so sarcastic it made my hyperacidic. so they licked it a ted and smoothed it here and there. and all they could fork for is mindboggling upgrade of 6 hp. what a laim change. and that's when toyota dumped on the market that 269 hp monster. funniest thing is that in one post it's already proclaimed to be the best bet on the market in europe and asia. why? maybe in areas where they do not sell rav4.

now, on the serious mode, i think honda slipped a lot on this 3rd gen. nolense volense, usa is the largest auto market in the world. car manufacturers custom tailor, for the last years, heavily beefed up vehicles, cut for this market. look at murano. virtually any other manufacturer puts on the market upgraded and re-upgraded cars. it all moved from 150 hp range into 200 hp range then into 300 hp range. what honda does - oh, we are so creative with a 170 engine! yayks. that's for the car that barely moves 4 adults in it with current engine and everyone was griping about engine lacking power since gen1/gen2 day 1.

did someone forget to take his pills today :roll: :lol:
ukrkoz - why are you so mad - if you want a 300 hp honda get the s2000 :wink:
or the ridgeline or the mdx or the pilot
or if you like so much the new bloated rav4 - take it
thats what competition is all about right :wink:

frankly in a world of skyrocketing petrol prices the last rav4 makes absolutely no sense
and honda made a perfectly reasonable decision - keep the cr-v small
and make it attractive to younger people
and thats what competition is all about too

im sure the new rav4 would be popular only in usa - exactly because of what it became
and im sure the cr-v would take over ex-rav4 owners around the rest of the world
and btw - china made a 70% rise in car sales last year and this year it overtakes japan
as the second largest automarket in the world
with that pace the days of american reign in this market are counted
and thats just another reason why honda made the right choice about keeping the cr-v the way it is
instead of adapting it more to the american taste like toyota did with the rav4

[sleeksilver]

The new TL isn't available in Japan because it's designed for the US market. The Inspire is the Accord from the USA. The MDX was designed for the US market and so is the RDX. In Japan, all vehicles are branded Honda, for now that is.

Now regarding chasis sharing, the CR-V and RDX are derived from the Civic where as the TL, Pilot, MDX, Odyssey, Ridgeline all came from a stretched Accord chasis. I think the TSX is unique but I may be wrong.


I think the RDX looks weird from some angles. The new V looks a little more sleek. None of those buldging fenders to make the car look complicated.

Can't wait to see the real deal though.

PS: Hey, has anyone seen the new Camry and ES 350? With the 2007 Camry looking the way it is, I want to buy one too!

I agree with the RDX looking very funny at some angles :? It's not a very good looking car IMHO :( When I said TL I meant previous generation, pre 2004. The TSX chassis is just a Euro Accord.

Hey Bing, have you noticed how similar the new Camry and ES350 look from the back!?!? It's crazy, I saw one on the road the other day and was shocked. And you are right, the new sporty camry looks pretty nice!!!

[OSX2000]

Still ugly...but I spy projector headlights on this one.

http://www.japanesecarfans.com/spyphotos/6060612.002/6060612.002.mini1L.jpg
http://www.japanesecarfans.com/spyphotos/6060612.002/6060612.002.mini4L.jpg

[etc]

wow - what eyes... i like it even more now :)

[sleeksilver]

Where the hell are those wheels I liked?!?!?! :cry:


Looks good though! :lol:


EDIT: Those headlights could be Xenon!!! :D It's possible. Almost all of Honda/Acura's Xenons are projector!!!

[OSX2000]

Fifty bucks says that's an SE model they're testing. And the heads probably are HID.

[liquidfuel88]

Camry? Have you seen the stop lights? They made them all bulging, and they look like candy. Who came up with that concept? Looks like a cartoon!

EDIT" As Steve Jobs would say: "...you'll want to lick them" (Who the hell wants to lick a user interface?!)

lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[NoBut]

No projector headlights/HID . Photochop.

[liquidfuel88]

hmmm.....those shots of the black V actually don't look bad at all!

looks like the ground clearance didn't drop too much.

i still think the curved rear window looks weird. but even though the window slopes down a lot, the roof itself is still fairly square so maybe the rear cargo volume didn't decrease as much as having a roof that slopes like the window

[msfit32]

The steering wheel looks bigger that is a good thing...

Body style is like Matrix......don't care for it much.... :?

Cargo area looks much smaller.... :(

:idea: Maybe they will come out with a whole new small SUV? Cause this ain't no SUV..... :oops:

They either covered up the 'smiley face' grill or changed it and that can't be bad...... :)

[OSX2000]

No projector headlights/HID . Photochop.
And you're basing this on...? :roll:

They either covered up the 'smiley face' grill or changed it and that can't be bad...... :)
It's still there, just hard to see on the black.

[98AccordEx]

I think this new spy pic of the black CRV looks great or at least great compared to the earlier white spy shot. This one looks like a CRV instead of a Matrix. It no longer looks considerable smaller than the Gen2s.

Funny but usually white makes car look bigger and black is supposed to be slimming???

The headlights make a dramatic difference.

[liquidfuel88]

$50 it's an SE?

but where's the sunroof??? :mrgreen:

[OSX2000]

$50 it's an SE?

but where's the sunroof??? :mrgreen:
I noticed that too, but this one's got projector heads, foglights, and better looking wheels. The door handles also look chromed, but that could just be more tape on the car.

[liquidfuel88]

2007 Honda CR-V SE:

Special Feature:

Tape!

:lol:

[liquidfuel88]

:o maybe the 2007 doesn't have a sunroof but an entire sliding roof! like the open air concept for the gen 2! :lol:

[shahram72]

Hello all this is my first post here. I currently drive an F-150 Pickup and am hoping to buy a CR-V some time next year when I don't have to pay full price. My wife an I have been a fan of the CR-V since the gen 1 and never had the money to buy one. We should have splurged last time on a gen 2, but we were too cheap. We won't make that mistake again. I work a real estate agent, so my truck is no longer suitable. Actually, I am going to take my wife's Mazda 626 and give her the CR-V so it stays nicer and in the garage. I put on miles so I would rather not wear out the car that has payments. Anyway, enough about me, my comment is that I like the new CR-V. I just hope they finish painting it this time unlike the gen 1 and 2. That was always what turned me off. And $5000 for painted bumpers are not worth it. They should all come painted, IMO. I'm just not fond of the sloping rear window with the squared bodypanel. That's a design mistake and the only ugly part of the car.

[JustinTime]

Forom those angles it starts to look like a Lexus SUV (the RX model). Basically same rear sloped window design, and VERY similar headlamps.

Not too shabby.... kinda like it from those pics. No smily grin. However, no sunroof?!

[sleeksilver]

$50 it's an SE?

but where's the sunroof??? :mrgreen:

Good eye Dave :)

One reason for the lack of the sunroof might just be because it's a preproduction model..... They don't have to be exactly to spec, well, because the public isn't buying them!

[Racoon]

It's also unlikely that Honda would introduce an SE model the first year. I wouldn't expect to see one until 2010.

JM2C (and yes, it's just my opinion).

:D

[etc]

2007 Honda CR-V SE:

Special Feature:

Tape!

:lol:
:lol: that would be the first :lol:

:o maybe the 2007 doesn't have a sunroof but an entire sliding roof! like the open air concept for the gen 2! :lol:
yeah - and it rolls back in a roll like a roller shutter... :wink:
hey that might explain that weird little curved window :lol:

[OSX2000]

It's also unlikely that Honda would introduce an SE model the first year. I wouldn't expect to see one until 2010.
True, that's been the pattern so far, but I've always thought that as far as a business decision, it's totally stupid, and hopefully Honda has learned from it. Why wait 3 years for every new model to take a bite out of the entry-level luxury SUV market? That would mean for the next 3 years, people unable to afford an RDX, looking for a CR-V SE instead, would have to settle for an EX, which means they give less money to Honda. Brilliant...in a stupid way. :roll:

[garyskisplym]

i like it. i think it look very intresting but that is because of the plactic they put to stop people seeing what it look like fully before the offical lunch date. shame not as cool as new uk civic. i want them to put the 2.4l engine in uk model

[mrtn]

gary! you're back!

[sleeksilver]

It's also unlikely that Honda would introduce an SE model the first year. I wouldn't expect to see one until 2010.
True, that's been the pattern so far, but I've always thought that as far as a business decision, it's totally stupid, and hopefully Honda has learned from it. Why wait 3 years for every new model to take a bite out of the entry-level luxury SUV market? That would mean for the next 3 years, people unable to afford an RDX, looking for a CR-V SE instead, would have to settle for an EX, which means they give less money to Honda. Brilliant...in a stupid way. :roll:

You might already know this but it's rumored they will be offering an EX-L which comes with leather. I might have to agree with you on the lack of an SE though. I guess they might think that it could potentially steal some of the RDXs sales. :?

[Robert]

The newest pic of the black V from the front angle looks too much like the new Odyssey to me. I also think those headlights are photochopped in. We shall see.

[Varmint]

$50 it's an SE?

but where's the sunroof??? :mrgreen:

Good eye Dave :)

One reason for the lack of the sunroof might just be because it's a preproduction model..... They don't have to be exactly to spec, well, because the public isn't buying them!

It's a european model. Look closely and you can see the jets for the headlights and a wide license plate holder.

[sleeksilver]

Stupid LCD on my laptop, I had to angle it further in order to even see the plate holder.... :?

[OSX2000]

You might already know this but it's rumored they will be offering an EX-L which comes with leather. I might have to agree with you on the lack of an SE though. I guess they might think that it could potentially steal some of the RDXs sales. :?
As far as the CR-V, isn't "EX-L" really just canadian for "SE"?

[sleeksilver]

That is true, I'm just repeating what I read :) Back in the day in the US there was an EX-L on the Accords I believe, I'm sure someone who owned one can correct me if I'm wrong or let me know if I'm right!

[OSX2000]

I definitely remember EXi and LXi back in the early '90s, but you may be right with EX-L too.

[SoFlaDad]

Oh, am I glad I got the 2006 SE!! That curved window in the back is not only RAV4esque, it is a huge blind spot!!!

http://www.japanesecarfans.com/spyphotos/6060612.002/6060612.002.mini1L.jpg

[JustinTime]

Judging by this pic, the ground clearance is not terrible... but who knows for sure!

http://www.japanesecarfans.com/spyphotos/6060612.002/6060612.002.mini3L.jpg

[skyout]

I've bottomed out in my '04 just going "mild" off roading. I don't really go where I need the RT4WD (it is nice knowing it's there) but I do like getting off the black top and exploring. I don't know if I'd get the new V if it only has 6 inches of clearance. I hope they didn't take it away.

[Racoon]

It looks like a minivan.

[skyout]

It looks like a minivan.

OMG, is it going to have a sliding door??? :D

[JamesBR]

Any guesses as to what is is towing? I would be more than happy to give up some of the styling if it has increased towing capacity and still is as efficient as the current model.

Jay

[liquidfuel88]

no a sliding roof :lol:

[Racoon]

Any guesses as to what is is towing? I would be more than happy to give up some of the styling if it has increased towing capacity and still is as efficient as the current model.
This picture has a little more of the trailer. Nothing very large from the looks of it.

http://a904.g.akamai.net/7/904/506/v0011/www.autobytel.com/images/Spy_Photography/Honda/CRV/400/07_Honda_CRVSpyShot_03.jpg

[skyout]

They've probably got a few Honda guys in the trailer with extra plastic in case some plastic gets blown off the V. lol

[chinchillax]

its still ugly! :(

Unfortunately, this will sell...since its a Honda. The new Civics are very ugly inside and out IMO and ppl are buying those in masses. :?

[lynna]

It looks like a minivan.

I don't know why they don't just admit the dropping of the CR-V and introduce this as the Civic Wagon, with RT4WD as a bonus. I'd have no problem if they marketed what looks like the new Gen-3 for what it really is and not as a poser. I like my friend's '06 Civic just fine and this is a logical expansion of that into a SW or 4-door hatchback (if that's not a contradiction in terms).

When I started looking at cars a little over a year ago, it was the Gen-1 that I associated with the name CR-V and I still prefer it's lines and undercarriage. I like the features of my '05 but any Honda could have evolved within the same body style to include those features.

[bumpzter]

Unfortunately, this will sell...since its a Honda.
Unfortunately? What is that supposed to mean? You are a Honda hater?

[Racoon]

Unfortunately, this will sell...since its a Honda.
Unfortunately? What is that supposed to mean? You are a Honda hater?
No, he was just commenting on how ugly it is (to him), but that he believes it will still sell well (even if he wouldn't buy one).

:)

[sleeksilver]

They've probably got a few Honda guys in the trailer with extra plastic in case some plastic gets blown off the V. lol


:lol: :lol: I concur.

My guess is that the tow rating will stay the same :)

[SoFlaDad]

It looks like a minivan.

I don't know why they don't just admit the dropping of the CR-V and introduce this as the Civic Wagon, with RT4WD as a bonus.

Back in the late 80s and early 1990s they had a cool little Civic wagon that had AWD. They were pretty cool & came in 4x4 versions. I'd have had one of those and then the CRV came out.
http://www.kbb.com/VehicleImage/505x375/1990/BWHOCIV4WDWAG90F.jpg

At the price point a CRV comes in at, a Civic wagon on the new platform would cost the same as a CRV. They probably don't want to have two vehicles that so closely compete on the same showroom.

[bing]

I'd say the CR-V evolved from the Civic wagon. The RT4WD set up is the same and has proven it's reliability.

Bing

[Racoon]

Back in the late 80s and early 1990s they had a cool little Civic wagon that had AWD. They were pretty cool & came in 4x4 versions. I'd have had one of those and then the CRV came out.
http://www.kbb.com/VehicleImage/505x375/1990/BWHOCIV4WDWAG90F.jpg
I tried to buy one of those in 1991 and could not find one. I ended up with a Geo Tracker instead. :oops:

At the price point a CRV comes in at, a Civic wagon on the new platform would cost the same as a CRV. They probably don't want to have two vehicles that so closely compete on the same showroom.
Hmmm...imagine a Fit with RT4WD (and a slightly more powerful engine). That would be cool.

8)

[Varmint]

Any guesses as to what is is towing? I would be more than happy to give up some of the styling if it has increased towing capacity and still is as efficient as the current model.
This picture has a little more of the trailer. Nothing very large from the looks of it.

Looks like the same Haulmark trailer they used for hot weather testing back in 2001. As I recall Racoon found the specs on Haulmark's smallest unit and it was around 1,500 lbs.

[Varmint]

I'd say the CR-V evolved from the Civic wagon. The RT4WD set up is the same and has proven it's reliability.

Bing
Strictly speaking... The RT4WD unit used in the Civic was based on a viscous coupling, not the hydraulic pumps & clutch packs design of the CR-V.

If Honda would just change the service interval in their manual, it would be very reliable. Extremely so.

[Vigor25]

I think the 3rd Gen is much improved from the 2nd gen. This look will grow on me. I am not too thrilled about the shape of the rear windows on the 3rd gen but then again the 2nd gen models did not look any better in my opinion.

I think Honda did a good job with the 3rd gen.

[CR-Vince]

I think this third-gen CR-V might be able to grow on me. I think it is better looking than the second-gen. Hey first-gen lovers -- at least the hood bulges in the right direction this time! :)

I'd like to see some other angles, but I don't think the Blue Betty would appreciate it if she knew I was admiring other cars' rear ends. :wink:

[sleeksilver]

Everyone who owns a 1st gen hates on the 2nd generation :lol:

I don't get it!

[etc]

yeah and they all hate the 3rd gen :lol:

[98AccordEx]

Hopefully the 3rd Generation will combine the best of the 1st Gen(looks) and the 2nd Gen(utility/power) and we can all aspire to it. We'll see. So far the latest pictures confirm one thing, it retains the classic CRV exterior look, except for the spare. Let's hope the interior follows suit and upgrades the appearance without losing the unique features we've come to love.

[Racoon]

Everyone who owns a 1st gen hates on the 2nd generation
I don't hate the 2nd Gen CR-V. There are a lot of things to like about it. If I had to replace my 1st Gen today I'd probably go with a 2004 or 2005 CR-V (if I could find one with a manual transmission), although I have to admit I really liked the Fit I saw, although the small engine would worry me (since I didn't drive it).

:)

[liquidfuel88]

Everyone who owns a 1st gen hates on the 2nd generation :lol:

I don't get it!

because the 1st gen is better :mrgreen: :wink:

[NoBut]

because the 1st gen is better :mrgreen: :wink:


I agree. 1st Gen CRV has the best look/functions.

Here are some more pics of the 07 CRV. Do i see, front & rear ABS disc brakes?

http://news.autovia.sk/img/galleries/21_448e69e806381.jpg
http://news.autovia.sk/img/galleries/20_448e69e8024c4.jpg
http://news.autovia.sk/img/galleries/80_448e69e8294aa.jpg

[Racoon]

I wonder if it will come with those cool grey racing stripes on the side?

:lol:
:lol:
:lol:

[98AccordEx]

because the 1st gen is better :mrgreen: :wink:


I agree. 1st Gen CRV has the best look/functions.

Here are some more pics of the 07 CRV. Do i see, front & rear ABS disc brakes?


You certainly should 4-wheel ABS disks have been standard for years.

[liquidfuel88]

2007 Honda CR-V SE:

Special Feature:

Tape!

:lol:

again!

[SoFlaDad]

I wonder if it will come with those cool grey racing stripes on the side?

:lol:
:lol:
:lol:

That is to try and lure the NASCAR crowd away from their F-150 and into a new CRV.

Here is the whole slideshow on those new pics:
http://news.auto.cz/?sekce=foto&ga_uid=GI_448e69e82b001&ga_id=GH_448e69e82a831

[toddaroo]

Now regarding chasis sharing, the CR-V and RDX are derived from the Civic where as the TL, Pilot, MDX, Odyssey, Ridgeline all came from a stretched Accord chasis. I think the TSX is unique but I may be wrong.

Thanks Bing for making this perfectly clear, I seem to either be missing the point with my discussion with Sleeksilver, or I was just plain wrong. In either case, I have not had ONE pleasant experience with this user group in quite some time, and it seems as though any time anyone attempts to create a really meaningful discussion, they are immeadiately flamed from end to end.

My post with Sleeksilver was ONLY to note that the RDX and CRV will become more similar than different, IN MY opinion.

[OSX2000]

I'd rather have one of these than an '07 CR-V. Looks very similar, yet a lot better.

http://www.carview.co.jp/road_impression/2006/honda_stream/photo_imp/default.asp?p=24

http://www.carview.co.jp/road_impression/2006/honda_stream/photo_imp/images/23_l.jpg

[etc]

did anyone else besides me notice the weird angular pointy lights it has?
here - i made this pic combining all the pics we have so far in one and outlining the angles of the lights

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8051/crv2007lights8lv.png

its either a weird anti-spyshot housing
or thats the real thing... all the angles are clearly seen on the different pictures

[shahram72]

I don't understand the criticism. I think it looks great. Hopefully we'll get painted bumpers and a grille. If the pricing is similar. I'm in next Summer. I've been wanting a CR-V since they first came out.

[Ray Cooke]

I think the new one will grow on me over time, but I agree that the rear side window, if indeed it slopes as steeply as these pictures indicate, would provide for poor visibility. While that curving windowtop line from front to back may look nice from a styling standpoint, I don't think it's very practical. At least the entire roofline doesn't slope downwards, as it does to a certain extent on the Dodge Magnum, so the cargo area height remains more useful.

It's kinda like the new Mazda CX-7, except that the rear side window on the Mazda kicks upward to become smaller; not a bad looking vehicle otherwise. I'd rather have a larger window for more light and visibility, but I guess manufacturers think that makes 'em look like the dreaded station wagons of old!

I'll just keep driving my 2003 Gen 2 until it quits, and at that point they'll probably be up to Gen 7 or so!

[SoFlaDad]

I think the new one will grow on me over time, but I agree that the rear side window, if indeed it slopes as steeply as these pictures indicate, would provide for poor visibility. While that curving windowtop line from front to back may look nice from a styling standpoint, I don't think it's very practical.

When the spy pic of the RDX and CRV first arrived on-line, it looked like the Odyssey-esque window line and chrome outline were the final design. At that point, I was going to hold out for a 2007 as I liked that look. The deal sealer for me was seeign the RAV4 window line. Frig, I hate that look. The big loss in cargo area is also something that was a deciding factor for me.

Maybe the new look will grow on me but moss will too if you stand in the shade long enough. :roll:

[Ray Cooke]

Just finished reading Car and Driver's long-term test of the Dodge Magnum in the July issue; their comment on its rearward visibility were:

"The blind spots through the tiny rear quarter-windows are a liability, and maneuvers that are based on the view rearward -- particularly when just the dinky rear wiper area has been swept clear -- take a measure of faith."

Give me bigger windows that I can see out of, rather than smaller "stylish" windows that may lead to a sickening crunch sound as you're backing up sometime.

[miko]

I'm just a newbie here, but some of the responses make me smile. It's the same thing every time something new come out.

There are those who don't like it because they just bought the old model. Have to tell everyone over and over why they did that, and secretly convince themselves that they made a good decision. :lol:
There are those who don't like it because they can't afford to buy the new model.
There are those who nitpick the new model just because they can.

We have two Hondas. Have been interested in the CR-V right from the beginning, but never liked the design of the rear door and spare tire. In 2002 I came close to buying. Liked the looks a lot better except for the rear. But now that Honda has apparently redesigned it, I may finally get one. I'm looking forward to it. From what I have seen it will be best seller. It's about time it outsold the Escape.

Hope I didn't offend anyone. :P

[SoFlaDad]

There are those who don't like it because they just bought the old model. Have to tell everyone over and over why they did that, and secretly convince themselves that they made a good decision. :lol:
There are those who don't like it because they can't afford to buy the new model.
There are those who nitpick the new model just because they can.
............
Hope I didn't offend anyone. :P


I bought the 2006-SE for a reason :D and only after I saw the 2007's rear window line and reduced cargo capacity. For what I paid I cout have very easily gotten a 2007 EX but I don't want that window line. My wife's previous ride was a loaded to the gills Pacifica and the blind spots caused by those huge c-pilars is unreal. It ain't a money issue as I can buy just about anything I want - for me, I wanted the CRV-SE in pewter and that is what I got. :D

Just wondering why you post stuff like that and then end it with a sheepish "hope I didn't offend anyone." Two of your four posts end in that same line. :?: :?:

[miko]

Are you offended? I hope not. Did you take it personal? Wasn't meant to be.

I've read a lot of posts here, and just expressed what I felt. Anyone can buy whatever they want. If you're happy, that's all that should matter. Some people like progress, some don't.

Peace. OK? :lol:

[Racoon]

There are those who don't like it because they just bought the old model. Have to tell everyone over and over why they did that, and secretly convince themselves that they made a good decision. :lol:
I bought my CR-V new in 1999. I don't need to justify anything to anyone, as mine's paid for. The "spy" pictures of what may or may not be the next CR-V are still ugly to me.

There are those who don't like it because they can't afford to buy the new model.
I can easily afford a new CR-V. I've even shopped recently for a Ridgeline, and looked briefly at an MDX. That doesn't mean I will buy a new vehicle just because I can afford one. And I definitely won't buy one as ugly as the "spy" pictures of what may or may not be the next CR-V. But that's just my opinion.

There are those who nitpick the new model just because they can.
And there are those who comment (not nitpick) about the new model because they don't like what they see.


You also posted in another message thread the following...

Will wait till the 2007 CR-V comes out. I appears that Honda finally has redesigned the hideous rear end. That has kept me from buying a CR-V for 10 years. Sorry if I offended anyone.
I'm sorry you don't like the 1st or 2nd Gen rear ends. You'll find that there are some HondSUV.com members who don't like the spare tire on the back, and many that do like the spare tire on the back. It is a matter of opinion.

You've posted 8 times (as of this writing) and 4 of those posts apologize for not wanting to offend someone. If you need to apologize for your post, thinking it might offend someone, I'd suggest you need to rethink what you're posting.

For the most part, HondaSUV.com is a very friendly place. Yes, we do have our disagreements, and some interesting discussions with diametrically opposing views, but people who post knowing they might offend someone else usually don't last at HondaSUV.com. Don't get me wrong, the moderators won't delete your account or delete your posts just for being offensive (they will be deleted if you post something illegal). It's just that the offensive people get tired of being ignored and go somewhere else to wreak havoc, or at least I guess they go elsewhere. I'm not certain, I just know they aren't posting at HondaSUV.com anymore.

You are more than welcome to contribute to HondaSUV.com, and we welcome your insights and feedback.

JM2C

[togloonda]

i like the look

even if it hasn't been officially anounced yet


racoon knows a thing or 5 about crv's

I have learned his mantra well

[miko]

Racoon.

You like your CR-V. That's great. Best reason of all. I'll never argue with that.

When I actually see a 2007, I'll make up my mind. If those spy shots are accurate, I think I'll like it.

[ToysCar]

did anyone else besides me notice the weird angular pointy lights it has?
here - i made this pic combining all the pics we have so far in one and outlining the angles of the lights

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8051/crv2007lights8lv.png

its either a weird anti-spyshot housing
or thats the real thing... all the angles are clearly seen on the different pictures

HID???

[sleeksilver]

Very possible, but probably not :( It would be the 2nd HID equipped car in Honda's line-up. S2000 is the first :)

[bing]

On a different note, do you think the wheels are 16" or 17" ones? From the pictures, it looks like 17". The tires sure look like they are 60 or 65 series. :?:

[JustinTime]

The headlights are slightly chiseled. It's the same thing they did with current Odyssey...

[WestTexan]

Is it possible the headlights are some kind of pieced together pre-production units to make it street-legal for testing?

[sleeksilver]

On a different note, do you think the wheels are 16" or 17" ones? From the pictures, it looks like 17". The tires sure look like they are 60 or 65 series. :?:

I hope they are 17's! :) With the last picture, they look pretty big.... Those still aren't my favorite wheels though. I like the wheels on the white CRV :D A whole lot actually!

[bronxblaza117]

those look like projectors, but we probably wont get hid's porbably just projetors for regular bulbs... the 06 4runners come with projector head lamps but regular bulbs...

[SoFlaDad]

17 inch rims are nice with the low profile rubber and quite likely fitting with the lower ride height and sportier ride, but have you priced 205/55/17 rubber recently? :shock: They are $165 or better a pop and that, my friends, is too freaking much money every two years to spring for rubber.

That is high end rubber that Costco and Sam's doesn't sell.

[OSX2000]

You guys do realize that the headlights are semi-covered in tape just as other details of the car are, right? I didn't think I was the only one that noticed this when I posted those pics 5 pages ago... :lol:

[miko]

They are $165 or better a pop and that, my friends, is too freaking much money every two years to spring for rubber.
How many miles do you drive a year? I do about 15 or 20K max. Tires usually last me four years or more years.

But I'm not saying that $165 is OK. :cry:

[SoFlaDad]

They are $165 or better a pop and that, my friends, is too freaking much money every two years to spring for rubber.
How many miles do you drive a year? I do about 15 or 20K max. Tires usually last me four years or more years.

But I'm not saying that $165 is OK. :cry:

Down here (just north of Cuba) you can only get about 35k out of a set of 440 treadwear rated tires. The roads are so hot that it just eats the tires up. Wife's previous ride ate the Michelin 440 rated tires were good for 35k miles and 10k of those were highway miles.

I've got 225/60/16s Eagle RS-A+ on my Crown Vic and get about 12-14k per set & a good 60% of those miles are over the road miles.

[miko]

Down here (just north of Cuba) you can only get about 35k out of a set of 440 treadwear rated tires. The roads are so hot that it just eats the tires up.
I didn't know that. I guess there is an advantage to live up here where it gets damn cold at times. But I'll still keep on dreaming about the heat and sunshine where you are. 8)

[shahram72]

those look like projectors, but we probably wont get hid's porbably just projetors for regular bulbs... the 06 4runners come with projector head lamps but regular bulbs...

I see no-HID's as a good thing. Yes, they look cool, but Honda Halogen light enclosures have always done a good job of illuminating the road. In my opinion, HID's are fine for high end cars, but I do not want them on my cars. Why turn a $20 replacement into a $125 replacement? This makes no sense. It's just a way to hose the consumer and has little benefit. Early HID cars had no way for replacement, effectively screwing many owners into major repair of entire assemblies after the warranty period. They knew they don't last forever. They can keep their HID's. I don't want them for free.

[sleeksilver]

those look like projectors, but we probably wont get hid's porbably just projetors for regular bulbs... the 06 4runners come with projector head lamps but regular bulbs...

I see no-HID's as a good thing. Yes, they look cool, but Honda Halogen light enclosures have always done a good job of illuminating the road. In my opinion, HID's are fine for high end cars, but I do not want them on my cars. Why turn a $20 replacement into a $125 replacement? This makes no sense. It's just a way to hose the consumer and has little benefit. Early HID cars had no way for replacement, effectively screwing many owners into major repair of entire assemblies after the warranty period. They knew they don't last forever. They can keep their HID's. I don't want them for free.

?????? :roll:

HIDs make a HUUUUUUUUGEEE difference at night, have you ever driven a car with HIDs and one without back to back at night? It's honestly a night and day difference (no pun intended). I don't see it as a way for sticking the customer for more money. I see it as an additional safety feature... :? They also last much longer than standard halogens.

[shahram72]

Yes, I used to own a Lincoln with HID's They did look nice, but no brighter than my wife's 97 Civic, just whiter. I just don't think that advances should always be taken when they cost substantially more. That's why I am here. I think this is the only decent SUV I can afford, in addition to the fact that I've always liked CR-V's. Another is LED tailights. When those things fail, look out for the bill! And do you think the dealer or manufacturer is going to feel sorry for you when yours burn out and cost $500 to replace? Meanwhile, a $2 bulb was all that was necessary. We have been driving sucessfully for generations with Halogen and incandecent lighting. I keep cars for a long time and do not appreciate these "features" that cost an arm and a leg to repair, as I think we have enough to worry about on an older car, now I have to worry about light bulbs? My reasoning here is overall longevity and value over the long haul. If I were simply a cheapskate, I'd be looking at a Kia or Hyundai, as they have nice small SUV's too. It's kind of like Hybrid technology. It's neat (I have a friend who has one), but you are much better served by a small economy car, as you will never recover the price premium in gas savings. Not to mention when that fails, you probably might as well just leave it by the side of the road and walk away. My point is, I appreciate technology advances that make cars more reliable and economical, as well as safer. Some are made simply to make more money, and I just don't have it to give. I have no idea where all these people get the money for these loaded to the gills luxury SUV's. They can't all be doctors?!?

[skyout]

Down here (just north of Cuba) you can only get about 35k out of a set of 440 treadwear rated tires. The roads are so hot that it just eats the tires up.

Yep, highways a littered with truck re-treds. The heat just separates them. Kind of funny as the truckers buying them are trying to save money.

[Cadd]

HIDs will be standard going forward. Wait until everyone uses LEDs. It's cheap, it's bright & it takes up much less room.

[skyout]

HIDs will be standard going forward. Wait until everyone uses LEDs. It's cheap, it's bright & it takes up much less room.
You forgot saving gas. :lol:

Hey Cadd,

How are you doing. Long time since we've heard from you!!!!

[sleeksilver]

Yes, I used to own a Lincoln with HID's They did look nice, but no brighter than my wife's 97 Civic, just whiter. I just don't think that advances should always be taken when they cost substantially more. That's why I am here. I think this is the only decent SUV I can afford, in addition to the fact that I've always liked CR-V's. Another is LED tailights. When those things fail, look out for the bill! And do you think the dealer or manufacturer is going to feel sorry for you when yours burn out and cost $500 to replace? Meanwhile, a $2 bulb was all that was necessary.

The Lincoln Mark 8 was the first car in the US to offer HIDs, as they were a very new technology of course it would be expensive to replace them. They stopped making that car years ago. While I think it could be true back in the dawning of the age of HIDs they might have been just as powerful as your wifes civic, that doesn't hold true now. I can't stand driving cars without HID at night, it is a HUGE difference. They are brighter, and clearer with a light that has a temparature closer to natural daylight and not that yellowish mess. :?
I think you also are forgetting the safety aspect of having brighter lights at night. As for LED taillights, they light up MUCH faster than an ordinary incandescent bulb which give the driver behind more reaction time. LEDs have a burn time of 100,000+ hours or something like that, which is probably longer than the life of your car! They won't burn out, that I can tell you.... LEDs and HIDs will become standard equipment on almost all cars in the next 10 years, that is my prediction. They are both more efficient, and possibly cheaper to use over the life of the car :)

I have no idea where all these people get the money for these loaded to the gills luxury SUV's. They can't all be doctors?!?
They are in debt up to their eyeballs!!! :lol: Or maybe they don't have kids yet??? Who knows....

[shahram72]

Yes, maybe the newer ones are better that on my old lincoln. But I have heard that argument about the LED life before. Yes, they do last long, but the supporting electronics will fail. I have seen more than a few cars with partially lit LED third brake lights. This is usually an electronic failure than the LED itself. I like em. I think they look cool and yes they work better, but I am just afraid of high repair bills. I have been really robbed by repair bills in the past and am trying to mitigate that situation as much as possible in any future car purchases.

[CRIANA]

I'm 10 pages late getting my 0.02 cents in, but I like it.

I'm sure Honda will be taking a bit from the RDX, and I like the RDX. I think the 2nd gen (which I drive) was the growing stage in between a good design for round 1 and hopefully a nice sleeker design for round 3.

When it shows up in pretty pictures and interior shots I'll make a better judgement.

I just hope they do something decent with the dash layout. The 2nd gen is so-so and the Pilot is just ugly (dash).

[bing]

I agree with Criana about the dash in the 2nd Gen. Somehow the e-brake toggle/throttle isn't the most intuitive. Works okay but just don't give it to valet with it engaged.

How, let's guess if the rear window hatch opens up?

Bing

[etc]

i doubt that, bing - look at the rear wiper
http://www.japanesecarfans.com/spyphotos/6060612.002/6060612.002.mini3L.jpg

[joewildlife]

Well, as an ex-owner of both a Gen 1 and Gen 2, I can say with certainty I won't own a Gen 3! I had to sell the Gen 2 as I needed a truck to tow my boat. Got my first Toyota ever, a Tundra. The Ridgeline wasn't even a close second. A bloated underpowered unibody "truck" just ain't gonna hack it in the American "truck" market. Why doesn't Honda just make a dang truck! Toyota is beating the crap out of the competition with its Tundra, Tacoma, and 4Runners...TRUCKS!

The RAV4 is easily gonna become the next best small SUV...if that is the correct terminology for this little speedster with all the room it's got. If I still could get by with a SUV, the RAV4 would be the only one I'd consider. Definitely not the SUW CRV.

my 2 cents
Joe

[lynna]

Some people like progress, some don't.



..and some like progress [in the sense of a noun, not a verb] but don't see this as progress. Just because something is being done that was not done before, that's not progress all by its self simply because it is being done. It would have to have properties that are better than those that were before it. And failure to accept the changes in the next generation V have nothing therefore to do with accepting progress since, in the mind of detractors, progress as an ideal has not been achieved. Visually, so far, I agree.

[Cadd]

skyout, long time no see! It's been a while since I visited the forums. Well, I'm looking forward to the 3rd gen. But I have a feeling that Toyota will kill it. It's just awesome to have the option to pick an I4 or the V6.

But either way, I think people will buy it. I guess when you compare the 4cyl RAV4 & the CR-V, both will have its pros & cons.

But I guess those looking for more power will have to look at the RAV4 since it has the V6 option.

[miko]

I drove a 4 and a 6 RAV yesterday. Like both. The 4 would be fine for me. I don't race or tow. It's like the difference between a 4 or 6 Accord (which I have). If I would by another Accord, I'd get the 4.

I don't really like the looks of the RAV. Maybe without the spare on the back I could go for it.

Waiting for the new CR-V.

[OSX2000]

i doubt that, bing - look at the rear wiper
http://www.japanesecarfans.com/spyphotos/6060612.002/6060612.002.mini3L.jpg
What? It's attached to glass? The 1st-gen CR-V has it like that too. Lift the glass, and the wiper with its motor go up with it.

[etc]

yes but what i meant was its way too low.... just seems as if the glass wont hold it
its much like the rear wiper of the hr-v where the rear glass is fixed
http://www4.airnet.ne.jp/pumpty/Car/BitMap/hr-v-rear.jpg